Tons of violence in broadripple causes an "occupy" with guns response.

[ThrottleJockey]

I'm not going to read 12 pages of this. I see it as little more than a good way to meet cute drunk girls. Heck it may even have a positive side effect. Or they could all go to jail. Anyone want to go as an outside observer to document the event in case there is trouble? Sure would suck for US if these guys get railroaded by media and LE.

 

[beararms1776]

Heck it may even have a positive side effect.

Like getting 2 drunk girls.

 

[Manan]

He is not a cop. Most of us are not cops. Why would any body go to a part of town that they would not normally go to and parade around showing off your weapons. I know that there have been three recent rapes in the area. I'll keep my family safe by not going down there at night until the cases are solved by the cops. If I carry it is to protect myself and my family (you and your family also) from imminent life threatening danger. I don't go looking for trouble, I avoid it. We are NOT cops. Let the cops do their job and stay out of their way.

 

[Hammerhead]

He is not a cop. Most of us are not cops. Why would any body go to a part of town that they would not normally go to and parade around showing off your weapons. I know that there have been three recent rapes in the area. I'll keep my family safe by not going down there at night until the cases are solved by the cops. If I carry it is to protect myself and my family (you and your family also) from imminent life threatening danger. I don't go looking for trouble, I avoid it. We are NOT cops. Let the cops do their job and stay out of their way.

Then I suppose you do not support any OC event where a group of like minded individuals who happen to carry openly, wish to educate the public, pass out some literature, and show that there are good folk who refuse to be victims. Heck, they might even show that all these armed individuals are some of the nicest people around, abide by the laws, and aren't the problem.

I don't believe that anyone organizing or speaking of the event have been attempting to show that they're cops. I think they're showing an area of town that's being targeted by criminals that there are people who protect themselves and others and want everyone to take personal protection seriously. They're not there to prevent crime, solve crime, or commit crime. Preventing crime might, however, just be an enjoyable side effect.

 

[ThrottleJockey]

He is not a cop. Most of us are not cops. Why would any body go to a part of town that they would not normally go to and parade around showing off your weapons. I know that there have been three recent rapes in the area. I'll keep my family safe by not going down there at night until the cases are solved by the cops. If I carry it is to protect myself and my family (you and your family also) from imminent life threatening danger. I don't go looking for trouble, I avoid it. We are NOT cops. Let the cops do their job and stay out of their way.

Then the bad guys win, they've kept you from living your life as you wish, stolen an entire section of town from you....or rather you have willingly given it to them. It is to let the sheep in BR know they CAN get a ltch and protect themselves as it is not the job or duty of the police to protect them, but rather solve the crime after the fact. Heck, even if it was, do you know how many it would take? What they would cost? It isn't about going and patrolling as vigilantes, It is about being seen and engaging the public with knowledge, if the thugs are intimidated by the presence of so many ppl with guns then that is an added bonus. just my and impression of the event. Education and empowerment. Cops are the answer to very few questions.

 

[mmills50]

Ok time I throw my Lincolns in the jar, this is a bad idea. If we are to educate people about carrying my plan of action is to OC as I usually do. Be polite to everyone I meet, Live my life, answer any questions that any one has. As for handing out papers educating people, I always refer them to this site. I have turned about 10 people this way including my best friend who wouldn't come near me while I had a gun on my hip and now she has shot my old handgun, my rifle, and it dying to fire my new handgun. It's all about how you put yourself out there.

Also a thought, 95% of people in broad ripple are there to drink and be stupid, do we really want them to have drunken thoughts of carrying a gun. "and popping a cap in some (female dogs hind quarters)"

 

[TTravis]

I am all for making the public aware of 2A rights and that there are good people like us who are armed. A different approach to the problem would be to turn the tables and make the bad guys aware. Maybe when someone gets in trouble, they should be made aware that there are legally armed citizens, lots of them, who do not intend to let themselves be a victim. They should be made to realise that when they threaten someone, they could well get shot. Maybe bad guys should be made to perform service by picking up brass and cleaning up after a gun range like Eagle Creek or Atterbury after they close at the end of a busy weekend. They should be made aware that there are people who train for the day they get threatened by the bad buy and that being a bad guy is downright unhealthy business.

 

[mrortega]

At first thought this sounded like a good idea but the more I think about it the more I think it isn't. There is a difference between people in an area like this one and those wanting to walk in a nice city park in broad daylight. If there are mostly partyers, drinkers, drunks and a few who just like to misbehave they are aware of what might happen in that area. Sounds like the city needs to step up patrols to try to scare off potential perps.

 

[williamsburg]

i think ill sit back and watch this play out from afarand see what happens

 

[24Carat]

Thanks to those out there for your support and I consider your site a great resource for gun related information in our
state.

With that said, I believe that there might be a lot of misconceptions and downright foolish back and forth on here concerning the event Occupy Broad Ripple (with guns). I'm not trying to be a leader of anything. I'm just another citizen, as imperfect as I am. I'm disappointed that there are some on here that nitpick on the most ridiculous of issues and put down
one of the best public awareness events for the 2nd amendment, that Indiana has seen, down. I'm glad you guys like my LCP.We are talking concealed carry for those unable and maybe unfamiliar with weapons in general. The LCP is a favorite among those who are inexperienced, I believe its the most popular back-up weapon in the world currently, can be used very effectively and it doesn't operate well with peas in it.

I change the way I carry depending on threat level and clothing.
On this particular occasion I had the weapon without one in the chamber and secured to my belt, covered by a suit jacket. How you carry is purely up to the user and I often train for carry in this fashion, which, despite exposed trigger, is very safe and effective for me for the particular threat level of a TV interview.

I'm sorry I'm not Charlton Heston, because I think thats what some of you would like me to be for you to be satisfied. I'm just another gun owner and rights advocate. If you'll see the feedback on our page and elsewhere, we have tons of support from average people, which is exactly who we are looking to reach. Many have seen through the fog and listened to the things I have said and written concerning this event, despite the media, inventing aspects to this event which do
not exist.

After tireless research (I am sure) you have found images on my facebook. I did a long-term advertising gig for an herbal incense company.
I did not have a facebook and adopted the business page that I set-up for them. I'm not a drug user and I cannot control what a friend of mine puts as their profile picture. I'm not sure where whoever it was, was going with that, but your assumptions bare very little reality. I'm just a media contact and I believe I communicated thoroughly and clearly
what our intentions were.

I hate to have such words for this fine forum, but I really do think that many of your concerns are misplaced and I sincerely hope that a much more polished version of this presents itself. I'm not perfect, none of our 120 attendees are perfect and I'm willing to bet that no one on this forum is either. This is what we have to work with, Ill gladly turn things
over to the Charlton Heston, that some one here want, if someone can produce a spokesman of that caliber. Until then, we will let the facts speak for themselves, the event will grow larger, and I will continue to work hard to make this a success.

I appreciate the great things that come from this forum but, I was thoroughly disappointed in the way some guys have approached this subject. We welcome you all to come out and enjoy the comradre, meet new friends and educate others on the issue of self defense. Thanks a million to the supporters out there and Id like to note that I never received/overlooked your member's msg to me on facebook, my account has been nothing less than exploding and I have a lot going on in my
personal life which has limited in the last couple days my ability to be on top of everything that goes on and/or all discussions
concerning this event.

Hope to see you all there, happy shootin' hoosiers!

I don't expect a response but what the hey, I'm bored right now.

By way of an introduction: I am a 54 yo male that has had firearms in my life and used them since I was 10 years old. I have had a LTCH (or its equivalent) for over 25 years. I think this whole affair is a fiasco of the highest order, ill conceived and haphazard at best.

Now your turn Sir, how old are you, how long have you handled and used firearms and how long have you had your LTCH? Why is this more than an ego satisfying stunt? And most importantly what do you even remotely think you will accomplish at that hour of the night surrounded by drunks?

 

[Amattern]

Thanks to those out there for your support and I consider your site a great resource for gun related information in our
state.

With that said, I believe that there might be a lot of misconceptions and downright foolish back and forth on here concerning the event Occupy Broad Ripple (with guns). I'm not trying to be a leader of anything. I'm just another citizen, as imperfect as I am. I'm disappointed that there are some on here that nitpick on the most ridiculous of issues and put down
one of the best public awareness events for the 2nd amendment, that Indiana has seen, down. I'm glad you guys like my LCP.We are talking concealed carry for those unable and maybe unfamiliar with weapons in general. The LCP is a favorite among those who are inexperienced, I believe its the most popular back-up weapon in the world currently, can be used very effectively and it doesn't operate well with peas in it.

I change the way I carry depending on threat level and clothing.
On this particular occasion I had the weapon without one in the chamber and secured to my belt, covered by a suit jacket. How you carry is purely up to the user and I often train for carry in this fashion, which, despite exposed trigger, is very safe and effective for me for the particular threat level of a TV interview.

I'm sorry I'm not Charlton Heston, because I think thats what some of you would like me to be for you to be satisfied. I'm just another gun owner and rights advocate. If you'll see the feedback on our page and elsewhere, we have tons of support from average people, which is exactly who we are looking to reach. Many have seen through the fog and listened to the things I have said and written concerning this event, despite the media, inventing aspects to this event which do
not exist.

After tireless research (I am sure) you have found images on my facebook. I did a long-term advertising gig for an herbal incense company.
I did not have a facebook and adopted the business page that I set-up for them. I'm not a drug user and I cannot control what a friend of mine puts as their profile picture. I'm not sure where whoever it was, was going with that, but your assumptions bare very little reality. I'm just a media contact and I believe I communicated thoroughly and clearly
what our intentions were.

I hate to have such words for this fine forum, but I really do think that many of your concerns are misplaced and I sincerely hope that a much more polished version of this presents itself. I'm not perfect, none of our 120 attendees are perfect and I'm willing to bet that no one on this forum is either. This is what we have to work with, Ill gladly turn things
over to the Charlton Heston, that some one here want, if someone can produce a spokesman of that caliber. Until then, we will let the facts speak for themselves, the event will grow larger, and I will continue to work hard to make this a success.

I appreciate the great things that come from this forum but, I was thoroughly disappointed in the way some guys have approached this subject. We welcome you all to come out and enjoy the comradre, meet new friends and educate others on the issue of self defense. Thanks a million to the supporters out there and Id like to note that I never received/overlooked your member's msg to me on facebook, my account has been nothing less than exploding and I have a lot going on in my
personal life which has limited in the last couple days my ability to be on top of everything that goes on and/or all discussions
concerning this event.

Hope to see you all there, happy shootin' hoosiers!

One big mistake I feel is associating gun owners and any event associated with gun owners with the occupy wall street protests. After everything that has gone on with that why would we want anything thing to even remotely associate us with them. my

 

[indianajoe]

One big mistake I feel is associating gun owners and any event associated with gun owners with the occupy wall street protests. After everything that has gone on with that why would we want anything thing to even remotely associate us with them. my

There it is. "Occupy," for now, implies "lawlessness." And that movement is the antithesis of, the infantile distortion of, the proper role of rights and responsibilities in a free land. Anything painted with "occupy" delegitimizes itself right out of the gate.

 

[maxmayhem]

THIS

I kind of agree with this...if these people want to exercise their 2a rights fine but I am not going to exercise their rights for them....I am not a police officer nor am I a vigilante...I will exercise my right to defend myself but I am not going out of my way to protect a bunch of MOSTLY libs (imho) who are mostly anti gun and anti everything I am for in this country....probably get flamed for this but I would not hesitate to defend myself or others in my vicinity but I am not going to be patrolling a college area that is saturated with alchohol consumption....just a bad idea...i will "occupy" my home

I think that this is a really bad idea - armed militias parading around Broad Ripple in the middle of the night. I have also paid for the little laminated pink piece of paper that allows me to carry a handgun for life. I wouldn't use it to flaunt my 9 mm walking around BR. This type of demonstration will just inflame the mainstream population into supporting more stringent controls on handguns. Good luck trying to stop the hoodies from invading northward - it ain't gonna happen.

 

[Landon]

Does anyone actually read and learn whats going on before jumping in and posting? Did you check out the Facebook page?

No one going is asked to "Patrol" anything. The event was set up to make people aware of their 2A rights and to hand out material on how to properly attain your LTCH. The group is not going there to escort people to their cars or fight crime.

While many have said the hours of 11AM to 3PM are not good, I would agree as most the people you will be trying to educate will be getting drunk and not really care. Something more like 6PM-9PM probably would have been better as you would probably catch them on their way to dinner before they start their night of drinking.

 

[maxmayhem]

maybe

we should give them a copy of constitution which is able here
Constitution for the United States of America

Does anyone actually read and learn whats going on before jumping in and posting? Did you check out the Facebook page?

No one going is asked to "Patrol" anything. The event was set up to make people aware of their 2A rights and to hand out material on how to properly attain your LTCH. The group is not going there to escort people to their cars or fight crime.

While many have said the hours of 11AM to 3PM are not good, I would agree as most the people you will be trying to educate will be getting drunk and not really care. Something more like 6PM-9PM probably would have been better as you would probably catch them on their way to dinner before they start their night of drinking.

 

[phatgemi]

That's just silly. Gerbils are far superior.

Be careful. You know what gerbils are for????

 

[harokyle]

Does anyone actually read and learn whats going on before jumping in and posting? Did you check out the Facebook page?

No one going is asked to "Patrol" anything. The event was set up to make people aware of their 2A rights and to hand out material on how to properly attain your LTCH. The group is not going there to escort people to their cars or fight crime.

While many have said the hours of 11AM to 3PM are not good, I would agree as most the people you will be trying to educate will be getting drunk and not really care. Something more like 6PM-9PM probably would have been better as you would probably catch them on their way to dinner before they start their night of drinking.

If you want to pass out info on gun permits fine but dont make a point of showing off your guns just carry concealed like you normally would and for those few people who always oc thats fine. You have to relize that the media is going to make such a spectical of all this calling it " ocupy Broadripple with Guns " and what the media reports the public will believe. My opinion is that this event is extremely irresponsible of the gun owners involved. And god forbid somthing does go wrong i wouldnt be surprized if we lost some of our carry privliges. Lawmakers definatelywould put some kind of law in effect that wont let this happen again.

 

[Landon]

If you want to pass out info on gun permits fine but dont make a point of showing off your guns just carry concealed like you normally would and for those few people who always oc thats fine. You have to relize that the media is going to make such a spectical of all this calling it " ocupy Broadripple with Guns " and what the media reports the public will believe. My opinion is that this event is extremely irresponsible of the gun owners involved. And god forbid somthing does go wrong i wouldnt be surprized if we lost some of our carry privliges. Lawmakers definatelywould put some kind of law in effect that wont let this happen again.

My comment was not about whether this is a good idea or not, everyone is going to have the own opinion about that and truth be known, we won't actually know till the event takes place and the we see the true outcome. The outcome could be bad as you suggested, although it could be good if everyone acts responsibly.

It just seemed like there were getting to be a lot of post of "I am not a cop", "I protect my family and thats it" comments and thats not what this event was ever intended to do. From my understanding (I am not an organizer nor do I have any part with the event) its merely to educate people on their options for protection.

Obviously I agree on several comments about the timeframe and the use of "Occupy", but I do see the intent and believe if everyone is civil that a good result can be accomplished in the end.

 

[mrortega]

My comment was not about whether this is a good idea or not, everyone is going to have the own opinion about that and truth be known, we won't actually know till the event takes place and the we see the true outcome. The outcome could be bad as you suggested, although it could be good if everyone acts responsibly.

It just seemed like there were getting to be a lot of post of "I am not a cop", "I protect my family and thats it" comments and thats not what this event was ever intended to do. From my understanding (I am not an organizer nor do I have any part with the event) its merely to educate people on their options for protection.

Obviously I agree on several comments about the timeframe and the use of "Occupy", but I do see the intent and believe if everyone is civil that a good result can be accomplished in the end.

During the day it's "education." From 11:00PM to 3:00AM it's provocation and a challenge to the bad boys.

 

[Landon]

During the day it's "education." From 11:00PM to 3:00AM it's provocation and a challenge to the bad boys.

I think earlier would have been better, but I don't know that 11PM-3AM is provocation and a challenge.