It is only a little stun gun, not a Tazer. I hit myself with it all the time to quite down the snivelers. It does bring things to a whole new level.- George
Excellent thread/post. Got me and my friend considering a much more serious and practical approach to training - including some courses. Thanks for getting all of these great comments and insights posted in INGO.
The first members there were "been there" types, exemplified by the fact that it was not mentioned and I only knew because Stephen Camp (rest in peace, Sir) let me know.
Now there are both students and professionals there, but mostly professionals.
PM me if you would like to see it. Anyone can sign up, but I do not like to make the address public. It is found easily enough, and mostly by word-of-mouth.