US Gov sues L3 (EOTech) for fraud

[duffman0286]

Still not planning on returning mine.

I'm banking on them selling them at reduced cost no way they can service that many optics (and even then there still refurbished)

 

[Hop]

I plan to have a chat with them at NRAAM and will go from there. Since they are still selling new ones, I expect they will have a booth at the show.

 

[atvdave]

Still not planning on returning mine.

same here, and if I can get a few more at a discount I'll get a few of them as well.

 

[M67]

Used the refund to fund a T-2 which I got yesterday. I'm happy

 

[linkdead]

Got my refund check for the two I sent back. Now i have ~1k to spend on toys. Seriously considering an ACOG this time. I'm going to miss my Eotechs, but fool me once shame on you...

You won't regret the ACOG. I've used a number of optics and keep going back to them.

 

[cop car]

I'm banking on them selling them at reduced cost no way they can service that many optics (and even then there still refurbished)

They will shred all of them. Take it off on their taxes. L3 is a huge company. All those body scanners at the airports.. Check out the name on the side of them. L3 didn't have to do this, they are taking care of their customers, like very few companies can or ever will. And for everyone who is saying EOTechs are crap, there is a big difference between EOTechs and L3 EOTechs. The first ones that came out with the crappy battery caps that broke all the time, left a lot to be desired. However the updated ones with screw in CR123s are incredible. There is a reason why you see 1 of 2 optics on SOF weapons. You either see an Eotech with a magnifier or you see an Elcan. They have been using them for years and putting them through more abuse than anyone else. They also use them more, demand more and could find more issues, yet they still use them. It's a shame that if you zero them at -20f that at 120f there is a minor poi shift. I just plan on zeroing mine at 50-60f and the poi will be minimal (read none).

 

[grunt soldier]

called eotech today to see what was up with the refund. when they said 4 weeks they meant it would be mailed out in 4 weeks lol. guy told me it was cut and mailed officially today so here's to new toys lol

 

[grunt soldier]

check showed up and is in the bank now

 

[jspy5]

Sent in my request for refund on 3-7 and received my check yesterday.....Sweet !

 

[snorko]

2/17 request submitted and approved
3/16 notification that payment was being processed with 4-5 week estimate
4/18 check received

Good on Eotech.

 

[Rookie]

Got my refund.

 

[Hop]

I hate to bump this but there's now a deadline to send in your EOTech HWS; May 23rd 2017.

I still have not sent mine in but am now leaning that way. Some new scopes have hit the market and are drawing my attention. Turning in an MPO II would pay for most of a Trijicon 1-8x.

Andrew Tyler Foster, et al. v. L-3 Communications EOTech, et al.

 

[JettaKnight]

I'm not trying to judge, but I didn't consider these specs when I bought my 512, so I wouldn't feel comfortable now complaining about some I didn't care about (and still don't). I'd feel less honest about using this as a way to "sell" mine to get something else I want now.

Of course, the resale value on the 512 may now be impacted because of this, so, maybe...

 

[CampingJosh]

I'm not trying to judge, but I didn't consider these specs when I bought my 512, so I wouldn't feel comfortable now complaining about some I didn't care about (and still don't). I'd feel less honest about using this as a way to "sell" mine to get something else I want now.

Of course, the resale value on the 512 may now be impacted because of this, so, maybe...

It's a sighting device that doesn't maintain zero. That is a baseline for any sighting device to be functional. When I purchased mine, I expected it to work as advertised, and the company has announced that it has a serious flaw that prevents it from doing so.

I didn't "sell" mine. I returned it to the manufacturer for a refund. It didn't work as advertised.

Fortunately the flaw only cost me some missed shots on coyotes and not something more serious. (Admittedly, it could have been just me missing the shots. That has happened, too.)

 

[JettaKnight]

It's a sighting device that doesn't maintain zero. That is a baseline for any sighting device to be functional. When I purchased mine, I expected it to work as advertised, and the company has announced that it has a serious flaw that prevents it from doing so.

I didn't "sell" mine. I returned it to the manufacturer for a refund. It didn't work as advertised.

Fortunately the flaw only cost me some missed shots on coyotes and not something more serious. (Admittedly, it could have been just me missing the shots. That has happened, too.)

I'm not accusing anyone of anything... I was just stating my own feelings.

If you felt returned yours because it's defective, that's a lot different than returning it because you just don't want it anymore.

 

[SMiller]

Everyone is aware that all optics do this right? Even the sent from God himself Aimpoint shifts.

Everyone loved the EoTech until it was the cool thing to bash them...


Always liked the EXPS line, if I thought there was a better optic I would swap in a second.

It's your money, do what makes you happy.

 

[Hop]

The thing that upsets me is I have a degree in Lasers & Electro Optics. I was rooting for these things to do well. There isn't anything else on the market with this technology (maybe the Vortex, have never seen one. Maybe I should call Alan) and no, a Holosun is NOT a hologram. I realize all optics have similar drift but L3 lied and covered it up. It sickens me to send mine back but in the end I think it's an appropriate punishment for that company.

Looking at this latest website, I don't see an RMA process like before. These instructions appear to say, fill out the form, box it up and ship it, just "trust" us that we got it.

 

[M67]

Always liked the EXPS line, if I thought there was a better optic I would swap in a second.

It's your money, do what makes you happy.

Mine shifted 0 a lot and the bad battery life was a killer and was always a PITA to sight in. I saw an opportunity to get a more than fair refund and so I went for it and used the money to help fund an Aimpoint T2 which I've yet to have a shifting 0 and I leave the optic on...always.....can't say that about the XPS2

 

[Vigilant]

Everyone is aware that all optics do this right? Even the sent from God himself Aimpoint shifts.

Everyone loved the EoTech until it was the cool thing to bash them...


Always liked the EXPS line, if I thought there was a better optic I would swap in a second.

It's your money, do what makes you happy.

No, MANY were bashing EOTechs as junk LONG before the lawsuit. Pat Rogers classes, in the early 2K's experienced many, DOA EOTechs, as well as Gunsite, and several other trainers.

 

[Trigger Time]

I never had an issue with an eotech and I've used them in very harsh environments including cold and Heat and getting the **** knocked out of them. But I do personaly know some people that I've now talked to that have said yes they have had issues. I continue to own eotechs. I know I could return mine and get full retail value and buy something else but I honestly don't want to. I like eotech still. I like some aimpoints too. I'm not mad at people that return them. I understand having an optic and always wondering if it's gonna let you down would be frustrating. but for the average guy like me now, I don't think I'll ever have an issue and if I do then Shame on me and not eotech