What new rifle will you purchase if/when HB1231 passes into law?

[8+1mm]

Looks like a Ruger 308 is in my future!

 

[7mmRM]

Got thinking about this. M1A, M1 Garand, M40A5, and the unborn 300WM. Think I've got it covered.

 

[Light]

Another excuse to get the Mossberg MVP in .308 i've been wanting.

It passed for those not in the know yet.

 

[terrance250]

The specific caliber deal is wonky...wtf? Soooo since ".300" is listed.... my 300 Blackout is gtg?

 

[Bucky623]

I won’t get a new rifle. I’ll use my Schmidt Rubin 1911 rebarreled in .308 Win. or .300 ACC AR if it is in fact legal.

 

[oldpink]

No need to buy.
I've had this little jewel ever since 1989, just biding its time for the day that it finally gets taken out for deer.
That day has arrived.

Ruger M77 .30-06 topped with Leupold Vari-X III 2.5-8x36 scope.

 

[croy]

I'll probably just build a 458 socom and be done with it. That way I don't have to switch guns depending where I'm hunting

 

[Expatriated]

Looks like a Ruger 308 is in my future!

Not sure which rifle you're talking about but I have their Scout rifle in .308 and it's now my favorite rifle. If you're contemplating that one, I highly recommend it.

 

[bart1533]

Another excuse to get the Mossberg MVP in .308 i've been wanting.

It passed for those not in the know yet.

Kool. I just picked up on a mvp flex in 308. Love it. Has the AR feel to it but in a bolt action. Just finished it up yesterday with a 4-12×44 vortex scope. I also changed out the grip and stock with magpul.

 

[bobjones223]

I have no plans on getting anything new. Just waiting for them to change the regulations again to be a bit more common sense with the wording and not just listing specific calibers.

Sorry still want to take my VZ out for deer until then the 44 gets all the love.

 

[clfergus]

Just picked up a Ruger American in .308. Hopefully I will get a Nikon Buckmaster for fathers day.

 

[openwell]

Did some research and this is from 1997, which 19 years ago, but we got to start somewhere:
Cartridges Of The World, 8th Edition, Revised And Expanded, 1997
by Frank C. Barnes
(page references listed after each cartridge below)


HR 1231 ....Sec. 8. (b)(3) The rifle must be chambered for ..cartridges:

(A) .243
1- .243 Winchester p.29

(B) .30-30
1- 30-30 Ackley Improved p.179
2- 30-30 WCF p.52
3- 30-30 Wesson p.106
4- 30-30 Winchester p.52

(C) .300
1- 300 (295) Rook p320
2- 300 Belted Rimless Magnum (H&H) p.320
3- 300 Canadian Magnum p.212
4- 300 Dakota p.212
5- 300 H&H Super p.58
6- 300 Holland & Holland Magnum p.58
7- 300 Pegasus p.213
8- 300 Phoenix p.211
9- 300 Savage p.53
10- 300 Sherwood p.320
11- 300 Weatherby Magnum p.60
12- 300 Wisper p210
13- 300 Winchester Magnum p.59

(D) .30-06
1- 30-06 Ackley Improved p.180
2- 30-06 Government p289
3- 30-06 Springfield 57 p.289
4- 30-06 U.S. p.289

(E) .308
1- 308 Norma Magnum p.108
2- 308 Winchester p.56
3- 308X1.5“ Barnes p.178

 

[oldpink]

Did some research and this is from 1997, which 19 years ago, but we got to start somewhere:
Cartridges Of The World, 8th Edition, Revised And Expanded, 1997
by Frank C. Barnes
(page references listed after each cartridge below)


HR 1231 ....Sec. 8. (b)(3) The rifle must be chambered for ..cartridges:

(A) .243
1- .243 Winchester p.29

(B) .30-30
1- 30-30 Ackley Improved p.179
2- 30-30 WCF p.52
3- 30-30 Wesson p.106
4- 30-30 Winchester p.52

(C) .300
1- 300 (295) Rook p320
2- 300 Belted Rimless Magnum (H&H) p.320
3- 300 Canadian Magnum p.212
4- 300 Dakota p.212
5- 300 H&H Super p.58
6- 300 Holland & Holland Magnum p.58
7- 300 Pegasus p.213
8- 300 Phoenix p.211
9- 300 Savage p.53
10- 300 Sherwood p.320
11- 300 Weatherby Magnum p.60
12- 300 Wisper p210
13- 300 Winchester Magnum p.59

(D) .30-06
1- 30-06 Ackley Improved p.180
2- 30-06 Government p289
3- 30-06 Springfield 57 p.289
4- 30-06 U.S. p.289

(E) .308
1- 308 Norma Magnum p.108
2- 308 Winchester p.56
3- 308X1.5“ Barnes p.178

Great work there.
It would also be interesting for those guys who form their own cases (.30-06 Ackley Improved as one example).
Without a case gauge and a micrometer to check dimensions, it would be just about impossible to distinguish between the standard Springfield and the P.O. Ackley.

 

[Hookeye]

A few not on that list...

.243 WSSM

.308 Baer
.308 Lazzeroni Warbird

.300 RUM
.300 SAUM
.300 WSM

 

[boman]

A few not on that list...

.243 WSSM

.308 Baer
.308 Lazzeroni Warbird

.300 RUM
.300 SAUM
.300 WSM

did I miss something? what happened to the 300 blackout?

 

[Hookeye]

I'm not tacticool, but think the .300 AAC is pretty much the same thing as .300 Whisper.
JD Jones developed the Whisper and declared sole rights to it
So they changed it ever so slightly and gave it a different name.

Kinda like what Remington did with the .357 Max (vs Elgin Gate's .357 Supermag).

 

[tenring]

I got one of these a couple of weeks ago just because I wanted one. Nothing to do with this latest what ever it is called, it's a hoot in the woods.


https://www.kygunco.com/henry-big-b...-round-checkered-american-walnut-stock-112773

 

[M4Madness]

Again, we're pretty confident that the Legislature is going to add suffixes to the listed cartridges before the hunting regs are released this summer. We know for a fact that in the conference, Senator Steele asked for .300 Win Mag to be legalized, and the NRA the .30-06 Springfield. The legislators just aren't gun savvy enough to have realized that by shortening the names down, they have legalized more. The bill's author is aware of the error, so now we must wait and see if it is corrected on technical day or not.

 

[openwell]

Chapter 1 Cartridge Nomenclature
“The truth of the matter is that the American “system” of cartridge nomenclature really hasn’t any system to it, and can only be learned through reading and learning.” 1.

The present language of HR1231 is sufficient “as is”. No deer or politician will be able to detect any difference between any of the chambered rifles, with all of the cartridge variations because each of the cartridges will be very effective. So what if the number of cartridges exceeds five. Looks like the 30-06 and .300 were last minute conference committee additions anyway. The whole matter just makes us look like amateurs who lack “reading and learning”.
So leave it alone and act like it was the plan all along.







1. Cartridges of the World, 8th Edition, Revised and Expanded, 1997 by Frank C. Barnes p.8

 

[M4Madness]

As mentioned before, I have no problem with them all being legalized. I just don't want people to be under the impression that every .300 will be legal, go out and spend a thousand on a rifle, only to have the Legislature clean up this bill as an Indiana General Assembly insider has alluded to and their rifle is not legalized.