Exactly! But I'm really posting on INGO. I learned a loooooonnnnng time ago, she doesn't want to discuss "it" or my advice as to how to fix "it". She wants a nod of the head, or a grunt or "that sucks", or some such every now and then, at the appropriate time and things are good.But she'll spend the next 1 hour and 55 minutes telling YOU about that 5 minute conversation.