When they come to take your guns

[sbcman]

PLEASE elaborate. I'm aware of the risk pertaining to state sanctioned marriage and children, but this one has me a bit un-nerved. Feel free to PM me if you don't want to threadjack.

It should. Check out Parker vs Hurley from the US District Court for the District of Massachusetts. This has been the prevailing decision regarding public, private and home education law and the Supreme Court has always went to it. In brief, it is a great decision on the one hand and a hard to live with one on the other. Basically, the court upheld parental rights to raise their children and are not, and I quote, "required to abandon that responsibility to the state." They went on to say that parents have the right to send their children for private education (both private institutions and home education) as well as the right to send them to public schools. But it's that phrasing "abandon" that's problematic. In their view, if you send your child to public school you have abandoned your responsibility to the state for their educational training. Thus, whatever the state desires (or possibly even requires) of the student is just tough cookies if you don't like it.

 

[ThrottleJockey]

I found the "memorandum and order" PDF from the case. I read a couple articles first but now see that I am correct in my conclusion that it cannot be changed from the outside and pulling my children will only help them minimally while leaving the rest of society to fail miserably. All the proper education in the world won't help if the world is on fire!

 

[drillsgt]

New London Police Department Doesn?t Want Smart Cops | Survival

Court OKs Barring High IQs for Cops - ABC News

Now i've seen it all, far be it we have intelligent cops out there. What data did they have to support this turnover among 'smart' people? I'd rather hire someone with a college degree and a high IQ over someone just looking for a job. Those are the people that really want to do LE work and not those just looking for a govt paycheck and benefits. How about some data comparing IQ's and those who have cost the govt more in civil suits etc. Most likely he was just a victim of cronyism before anything else much like here in Indiana. It's more about who you know then what you know and not just in LE. Many jobs that are posted are already "filled" they just have to post them because it's policy but they know who they are going to hire.

 

[jbombelli]

Now i've seen it all, far be it we have intelligent cops out there. What data did they have to support this turnover among 'smart' people? I'd rather hire someone with a college degree and a high IQ over someone just looking for a job. Those are the people that really want to do LE work and not those just looking for a govt paycheck and benefits. How about some data comparing IQ's and those who have cost the govt more in civil suits etc. Most likely he was just a victim of cronyism before anything else much like here in Indiana. It's more about who you know then what you know and not just in LE. Many jobs that are posted are already "filled" they just have to post them because it's policy but they know who they are going to hire.

Look at it like this. If they insisted on hiring SMART people as police officers, we couldn't walk down the street and say "look at that stupid cop over there - what an idiot" nearly as often.

 

[EvilBlackGun]

Maybe we need a " Solzhenitsyn " rule.

Evil man, any where, any place, any weapon. For freedom the list grows longer. Each of us recruit two others. But nothing will go up the flag-pole until we Minute-men are stronger. That's why the Taliban is not too active in Indiana; not enough strength. But there WAS a slaughterhouse just outside Fairmount that tried to operate under sharia. EBG

 

[ThrottleJockey]

Evil man, any where, any place, any weapon. For freedom the list grows longer. Each of us recruit two others. But nothing will go up the flag-pole until we Minute-men are stronger. That's why the Taliban is not too active in Indiana; not enough strength. But there WAS a slaughterhouse just outside Fairmount that tried to operate under sharia. EBG

I'm under the impression they have a headquarters near plainfield.

ETA: Yup, http://flyergroup.com/local/x1562451569/Muslim-organization-calls-Plainfield-home
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Society_of_North_America

 

[IndyDave1776]

I'm under the impression they have a headquarters near plainfield.

ETA: Yup, Muslim organization calls Plainfield home » Local News » Hendricks County Flyer, Avon, IN
Islamic Society of North America - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They most certainly do. I used to live just up the street from it. I also heard (unofficially) that they have had some unexplained fires and refuse to allow the fire marshal to inspect some parts of the building. Fireman talk at a cookout isn't something I can really cite as evidence but it sure as the universe got my attention.

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

They most certainly do. I used to live just up the street from it. I also heard (unofficially) that they have had some unexplained fires and refuse to allow the fire marshal to inspect some parts of the building. Fireman talk at a cookout isn't something I can really cite as evidence but it sure as the universe got my attention.

I've also heard rumors that they have an indoor firing range in the basement.

 

[sepe]

As long as they don't take my TV and American Idol is still running, they can have my guns. Just leave me my TV and an Obama phone so I can text my votes in.

 

[IndyDave1776]

I've also heard rumors that they have an indoor firing range in the basement.

The basement was one of those parts they would not allow to be inspected although I hadn't heard any specific ideas on why.

 

[ThrottleJockey]

And this is why I stock tannerite. Off the shelf it won't compete with what they've got, but I knows me some tricks

 

[rugertoter]

Those who come to take my guns can go to hell.

 

[Raskolnikov]

New London Police Department Doesn?t Want Smart Cops | Survival

Court OKs Barring High IQs for Cops - ABC News

This is a sad, sad thing. It's understandable, though, especially in light of all of the things I think are about to happen. It is easier to get less intelligent people to follow orders--especially orders that are questionable (like gun confiscation). They're also a lot less likely to question "why" things are happening or "why" orders are being given. Truly a sad state of affairs.

 

[John James]

When the day comes, 97% of American citizens, including those on this forum, will hand them over.

 

[ThrottleJockey]

When the day comes, 97% of American citizens, including those on this forum, will hand them over.

It really all depends on the events and circumstances surrounding the action. The slow steady conditioning and buildup will result as you claim which is why it should be stopped sooner rather than later.

 

[jbombelli]

When the day comes, 97% of American citizens, including those on this forum, will hand them over.

Maybe YOU will. They'll have to surprise me to get mine. And unless they hit MY house FIRST, I don't see that happening.

Even if they did manage to surprise me, I ALREADY don't have all mine at home.

 

[Bunnykid68]

Maybe YOU will. They'll have to surprise me to get mine. And unless they hit MY house FIRST, I don't see that happening.

Even if they did manage to surprise me, I ALREADY don't have all mine at home.

DO you keep yours at the bottom of a lake too

 

[jbombelli]

DO you keep yours at the bottom of a lake too

No. Bottom of a river.

 

[Mr. Smith]

I would hate to give up my Ruger 10/22. My dad gave it to me and he has been gone for 8 years now...

 

[sepe]

Maybe YOU will. They'll have to surprise me to get mine. And unless they hit MY house FIRST, I don't see that happening.

Even if they did manage to surprise me, I ALREADY don't have all mine at home.

With the numbers of people on here that believe we need stricter gun control, I'd say that 97% might have been too high but I'd say it is safe to say it would be over 75-80%.