Why don't people like a thumb safety on a pistol?

[88E30M50]

Wow, there is a lot of fail in this thread. My favorite is 'My safety is between my ears'. So, does that apply to seat belts as well? If you can magically avoid accidental discharges, can you do that with cars or other stuff as well? I hate hearing that from otherwise intelligent people.

If you cannot figure out how to use a safety, you don't practice enough. If you practice a huge amount, and still cannot figure out how to use a safety, you should probably not carry a gun. A safety is not a combination lock that needs thought about on the draw. it is a natural action that is second nature with practice.

Why is it that the very same people that say they don't need to have a safety because of their huge brains are also the same ones that say you cannot have a safety because in a stressful situation, you cannot trust yourself to think properly? I can't imagine why someone would choose a gun with a long trigger pull and no safety when they can have a gun with a beautiful trigger and safety as well.

But, that's just me. Fortunately, we can carry however we want, If a safety makes you happy, have at it. If you cannot figure the darn things out, then there are guns for people like you too. The OP can probably guess by now that the issue of a thumb safety is a pretty charged topic.

 

[Roadie]

Wow, there is a lot of fail in this thread. My favorite is 'My safety is between my ears'. So, does that apply to seat belts as well? If you can magically avoid accidental discharges, can you do that with cars or other stuff as well? I hate hearing that from otherwise intelligent people.

If you cannot figure out how to use a safety, you don't practice enough. If you practice a huge amount, and still cannot figure out how to use a safety, you should probably not carry a gun. A safety is not a combination lock that needs thought about on the draw. it is a natural action that is second nature with practice.

Why is it that the very same people that say they don't need to have a safety because of their huge brains are also the same ones that say you cannot have a safety because in a stressful situation, you cannot trust yourself to think properly? I can't imagine why someone would choose a gun with a long trigger pull and no safety when they can have a gun with a beautiful trigger and safety as well.

But, that's just me. Fortunately, we can carry however we want, If a safety makes you happy, have at it. If you cannot figure the darn things out, then there are guns for people like you too. The OP can probably guess by now that the issue of a thumb safety is a pretty charged topic.

Some people prefer passive safeties for there to be one less thing to think about in a high stress situation. What is so wrong with that?

Nobody here said anything about "huge brains", they said that the mind is the best safety. BIG difference. Safeties can, and have, failed, so trusting the safety too much is dangerous. (ie: ASSUMING that the gun is "safe" because the safety is on)

Carry how you are comfortable, but don't be so stuck on your method as being the only right one, that you insult other people's intelligent because they chose a different method than yours.

 

[IndyGunner]

 

[mjblazor]

Some of us are just old fashioned and think we need a safety
1911 for ever

Old fashion to me means revolvers. They don't have safeties. I bought an M&P 9C with safety cuz I got a great deal and everytime I used the safety I forgot it was on when I went to shoot it. I sold it.

 

[mrp010]

I prefer the safety. Practice with it a lot. It is a 1911 tho, some guns have awkard saftey locations that would make it an effort to go hot.

 

[ssylvester]

Some people prefer passive safeties for there to be one less thing to think about in a high stress situation. What is so wrong with that?

Nobody here said anything about "huge brains", they said that the mind is the best safety. BIG difference. Safeties can, and have, failed, so trusting the safety too much is dangerous. (ie: ASSUMING that the gun is "safe" because the safety is on)

Carry how you are comfortable, but don't be so stuck on your method as being the only right one, that you insult other people's intelligent because they chose a different method than yours.

Well passive safeties are still safeties like the xd but " the best safety is between my ears" comment I believe was in the context of I don't need to use my safety
Because I am too smart to accidentally discharge my gun. And honestly if using a safety causes you to be complacent and throw all gun safety rules out the window you have no business handling firearms.

 

[singlestacksig]

If your holster is that worn, it should be replaced.
I know we aren't made of money, but people pay a LOT of money for a gun, then skimp on holster. If your magazine was failing, you'd replace or fix it.

I'm not ripping on anyone. Use a safety or not. Don't matter to me.

not just the holster, I have stopped shooters while I was RO at matches because they had caught a big chunk of shirt in their trigger guard & were trying to push the gun into the holster...

 

[awilson82]

I dont have a problem with a safety if it is located so that it can easily be manipulated during a draw. Some guns have the safety in an stupid location. That said my primary carry gun is Bersa BP9CC with no safety and a pretty light trigger. I never worry about an ND it lives in a nice holster and I have good trigger discipline. That said if it had a nice thumb safety like my FNP I wouldnt mind it. I wouldnt pocket carry a gun with no safety but many people do.

 

[cluznar]

Thumb Safety on a pistol

I like a manual safety myself, practice drawing and flipping it off and find no problems.

If you like a gun but it has a manual safety, buy it and leave the safety off.

It is not a big deal!

 

[Sticky]

I like thumb safeties just fine.

My Ruger Vaquero has the longest thumb safety stroke I ever seen. You gotta pull that thing back over 1.5 inches before the gun will go bang. I remember to do it even when under stress.

 

[WestSider]

I have traditionally not cared for safeties but I have learned to live with the one on my SR9c.

 

[Regionnus Rattis]

I have a Beretta Nano without any safeties on it...I switched out the DAO spring with a 5 pound spring, so it is fairly light and easy to shoot, only when my finger is placed in the shooting position. So that is my safety.

 

[Roadie]

I like thumb safeties just fine.

My Ruger Vaquero has the longest thumb safety stroke I ever seen. You gotta pull that thing back over 1.5 inches before the gun will go bang. I remember to do it even when under stress.

Not a flame, but... care to elaborate more on the above?

 

[singlestacksig]

Not a flame, but... care to elaborate more on the above?

it is a single action revolver, he has to cock the hammer for each shot..
and it takes no time & can be done under stress..

 

[IndyDave1776]

Groundhog Day. My life is Groundhog Day.

Come on! If you could snuggle with Andie McDowell that wouldn't be such a bad thing!

 

[Roadie]

it is a single action revolver, he has to cock the hammer for each shot..
and it takes no time & can be done under stress..

 

[Sticky]

Not a flame, but... care to elaborate more on the above?

it is a single action revolver, he has to cock the hammer for each shot..
and it takes no time & can be done under stress..

^ What he said. The hammer is also the thumb safety...

EDIT: darn it, he beat me to it. I was mostly making a joke about the old SA's.

 

[Roadie]

^ What he said. The hammer is also the thumb safety...

EDIT: darn it, he beat me to it. I was mostly making a joke about the old SA's.

Hey, in my own defense, I have only been carrying about 3 years now, so I am still learning