Young Democratic Socialists Violently Assault Police & Gun Owners at Kent State

[printcraft]

The right uses the exact same tactics. There's no moral high ground for either party to stand.

Already covering this disproportionate line of reasoning in the Kavanaugh thread.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

The right uses the exact same tactics. There's no moral high ground for either party to stand.

Yeah, remember all the conservatives rioting, turning over police cars... oh wait. Well there was that one Republican congressman calling on his constituents to confront members of the Obama administration and run them out of restaurants and... oh wait...

 

[printcraft]

Yeah, remember all the conservatives rioting, turning over police cars... oh wait. Well there was that one Republican congressman calling on his constituents to confront members of the Obama administration and run them out of restaurants and... oh wait...

I was told they are all equal, balanced, totally the same, no difference, identical, peas in pod.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Yeah, remember all the conservatives rioting, turning over police cars... oh wait. Well there was that one Republican congressman calling on his constituents to confront members of the Obama administration and run them out of restaurants and... oh wait...

Nah, they just blow up federal buildings, bomb abortion clinics, commit church massacres, shoot and murder Sikhs and Indians mistaking them for Muslims.

 

[Trigger Time]

Nah, they just blow up federal buildings, bomb abortion clinics, and murder Sikh's mistaking them for Muslims.

Yep. Bad actors on the extreme right. And also unacceptable.
Even the extreme left are entitled to their own radical views too, but NO ONE is entitled to incite violence or be violent against someone they disagree with.
Right now in our country the left is unhinged and it is common place to see them be violent. If I wore my MAGA hat out into the city you can be sure I would be attacked. I'd stomp their little candy asses into the ground if they touched me but still, they would be starting it.
That is NOT tolerance or a free society and even the extreme right hasnt been like that.
Only an idiot would mistake a Sikh for a Muslim

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Nah, they just blow up federal buildings, bomb abortion clinics, commit church massacres, shoot and murder Sikhs and Indians mistaking them for Muslims.

Yes, you can point to isolated incidents (not sure about the Sikhs and Indians thing but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt), but can you honestly say that they do these things on the widespread scale that the left does? Or are they "lone wolves"? You can't point to the exceptions and claim that it's the rule. And another difference is, that when these isolated incidents do happen, the right is quick to condemn them. Can't say that about the left (if you're honest). Where were the democrats calling for the censure of of Maxine Waters for example? *crickets* Where is the equivalent of crowds of vagina-hat wearing conservatives protesting from the right?

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Yep. Bad actors on the extreme right. And also unacceptable.
Even the extreme left are entitled to their own radical views too, but NO ONE is entitled to incite violence or be violent against someone they disagree with.
Right now in our country the left is unhinged and it is common place to see them be violent. If I wore my MAGA hat out into the city you can be sure I would be attacked. I'd stomp their little candy asses into the ground if they touched me but still, they would be starting it.
That is NOT tolerance or a free society and even the extreme right hasnt been like that.
Only an idiot would mistake a Sikh for a Muslim

I need a rep reload...

 

[Kutnupe14]

Yes, you can point to isolated incidents (not sure about the Sikhs and Indians thing but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt), but can you honestly say that they do these things on the widespread scale that the left does? Or are they "lone wolves"? You can't point to the exceptions and claim that it's the rule. And another difference is, that when these isolated incidents do happen, the right is quick to condemn them. Can't say that about the left (if you're honest). Where were the democrats calling for the censure of of Maxine Waters for example? *crickets* Where is the equivalent of crowds of vagina-hat wearing conservatives protesting from the right?

"isolated incidents?" Ok, I guess. The point I'm making is that the violence is a two way street. The extremists on both ends engage in it. Pointing a finger at one, and feigning innocence for the other, despite a history or WELL documented instances, does such tragedies a disservice.

 

[Trigger Time]

Heres the difference kut. Republicans do not accept these violent lunatics into their party or celebrate their criminal deeds. They condemn them, even in private.
.
The Democrats laugh and celebrate when a trump voter is attacked or "trump voters" at a country music concert are gunned down 1 year ago, God rest their souls, ALL of them not just the trump voters if there was some.
When a congressman was gunned down they prayed for him to die. They prayed more were dead and celebrated. Sure they did it off TV and in the shadows. But they got away with it. Sick
The Democrat party is pure evil. Satan has been let out of the pit and he has taken a seat in the Democrat party.
When I said they prayed above,.I meant to satan

 

[Trigger Time]

I need a rep reload...

Thank you

 

[Trigger Time]

"isolated incidents?" Ok, I guess. The point I'm making is that the violence is a two way street. The extremists on both ends engage in it. Pointing a finger at one, and feigning innocence for the other, despite a history or WELL documented instances, does such tragedies a disservice.

Yes. It should be universally condemned.
But Kut, we could add up all of the violent incidents and the left would come out on top by far.

 

[femurphy77]

It's really gotta **** them off that she's a hot white chick and not some fat, mouth breathing neanderthal!

 

[DoggyDaddy]

"isolated incidents?" Ok, I guess. The point I'm making is that the violence is a two way street. The extremists on both ends engage in it. Pointing a finger at one, and feigning innocence for the other, despite a history or WELL documented instances, does such tragedies a disservice.

Yes, isolated incidents by comparison. As TT and I both pointed out, the conservative side condemns the fringe when they act out like that. The same cannot be said for the liberal side (with the possible exception of Alpo here on INGO, and I hope that there are more like him - but if so, they have been silent or marginalized by their own side). Has anyone in the democrat party condemned Maxine Waters for her rhetoric? If so, I haven't seen it. And yes, you can go back in history and find some examples of the "right" behaving badly, certainly. I'm talking about present day events. Differences in philosophy are fine, but when those differences escalate into violence, it's wrong. Only one side has been consistently escalating in recent history. They are behaving like spoiled children that don't get their way, only the consequences are much more severe.

 

[Trigger Time]

Its just laughed off when she and others call for death and violence on us white guys its laughed at. Even allowed on TV. Just another topic. More double standards of the left

 

[KJQ6945]

Nah, they just blow up federal buildings, bomb abortion clinics, commit church massacres, shoot and murder Sikhs and Indians mistaking them for Muslims.

See Kut, you're just being disengenuous. Going back what, close to thirty years for some of those examples? None of them were endorsed by the conservatives. None!

Can you say the same for Antifa, Occupy, the Black Panthers, hell, if we're gonna go back a few years, how about the klan? The left has ALWAYS been the party of hate and intolerance. They openly support it.

Indy has reached what, 120 murders this year? That's potentially 240 Democrats that can't vote for Carson. Do you honestly think most of the victims or shooters were right wing? The left owns the violence.

There is a big difference between people on the left, and people on the right. One side wants to save our country, the other wants to change it.

 

[Kutnupe14]

See Kut, you're just being disengenuous. Going back what, close to thirty years for some of those examples? None of them were endorsed by the conservatives. None!

Can you say the same for Antifa, Occupy, the Black Panthers, hell, if we're gonna go back a few years, how about the klan? The left has ALWAYS been the party of hate and intolerance. They openly support it.

Indy has reached what, 120 murders this year? That's potentially 240 Democrats that can't vote for Carson. Do you honestly think most of the victims or shooters were right wing? The left owns the violence.

There is a big difference between people on the left, and people on the right. One side wants to save our country, the other wants to change it.

Besides several other troubling statements above, which are completely based on assumptions, the fact that you imply that the klan is somehow left-wing, makes addressing the above thoughtfully problematic.

 

[GIJEW]

Besides several other troubling statements above, which are completely based on assumptions, the fact that you imply that the klan is somehow left-wing, makes addressing the above thoughtfully problematic.

The klan is RACIST, not "left" or "right" per se. Having said that--as you know--the klan was established by members of the democrat party and has represented a sizable faction of it from "reconstruction" up through the civil rights act. Likewise, the party peddling divisive, identity politics is the democrats. FWIW that dweeb jason kessler who was involved in organizing the Charlottesville protest against removing gen. lee's statue was previously involved in left wing groups like "occupy wall st".

 

[Kutnupe14]

The klan is RACIST, not "left" or "right" per se. Having said that--as you know--the klan was established by members of the democrat party and has represented a sizable faction of it from "reconstruction" up through the civil rights act. Likewise, the party peddling divisive, identity politics is the democrats. FWIW that dweeb jason kessler who was involved in organizing the Charlottesville protest against removing gen. lee's statue was previously involved in left wing groups like "occupy wall st".

The klan is right-wing extremist group. That is a point of fact. You are correct in saying the Democrats of the time created the Klan. To imply that the party then, is the same as the party now, is wildly off base. I for the life of me can't understand why people still try to make that argument.

 

[Thor]

Because it's true? Right wing? Not hardly, not when it refers to Republicans...who fought a war to end the failed policies of slavery and Democrats who fought one to preserve it. Someone seems to be changing the labels to confuse the topics...or there is some convolution going on in the justification...which does nothing to address the facts.

 

[Denny347]

Because it's true? Right wing? Not hardly, not when it refers to Republicans...who fought a war to end the failed policies of slavery and Democrats who fought one to preserve it. Someone seems to be changing the labels to confuse the topics...or there is some convolution going on in the justification...which does nothing to address the facts.

Wow, talk about diving back into history. The parties of the Civil War are the same ones today in name only. To say the Democratic Party or the Republican Party of 150yrs ago is the same party we see today is false. I thought the KKK openly supported Trump? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...rses-donald-trump-for-president-a7392801.html