I heard that this scenario (or one very similar) was played out during one of Mindset Labs' FoF classes. Perhaps Lars can chime in, as I believe he was in the class.
That'd be great! He's probably out riding his bike somewhere though
I heard that this scenario (or one very similar) was played out during one of Mindset Labs' FoF classes. Perhaps Lars can chime in, as I believe he was in the class.
Here's the rub, I can't have a gun at work (like many of the rest of you based on company policy), so am not armed when I enter the gas station. If something does break out, you'd better bet I'm going to try my best to not get into a fight. My knife isn't going to be a good tool for me in most situations...just like the old saying goes.
I read that post about the armed robber at the gas station in Avon and it got me thinking since I've been there plenty of times. If you were in the gas station(carrying a handgun) browsing in the back and one robber armed with a pistol entered and demanded the money from the clerk what do you do? The robber has his back to you and doesn't seem to notice you. And what if there are two robbers with their backs to you? And what if your with your wife/gf?
This is me re-enacting the robbery I recently prevented.
>snip< I'm not a junior LEO protecting Baskin & Robbins profits or its employees. My only task is to get me and my family home safely. I would use a carry gun only if my hand was forced in order to protect my family.
Be a good witness. If you are in fear for your life, then take action. Remember, you carry as a means of personal protection. The money in the cash drawer isn't worth any heroics.First, I would be to try to be a good witness, anything more then that depends on the actions of the robber/s.
Be a good witness. If you are in fear for your life, then take action. Remember, you carry as a means of personal protection. The money in the cash drawer isn't worth any heroics.
My only task is to get me and my family home safely. I would use a carry gun only if my hand was forced in order to protect my family.
Be a good witness. If you are in fear for your life, then take action. Remember, you carry as a means of personal protection. The money in the cash drawer isn't worth any heroics.
These kinds of threads are mostly a lot of "what if" opinions by people who have never been in the situation, and never will be. Most armed robberies are just that - robberies. BG wants to get in and get out. As soon as anyone starts shooting, it gets ugly. If you've got the drop on the guy and decide to go for it, make sure his accomplice is standing behind you. How many rounds will the BG get off before going down? Keep in mind also, that you have taken the responsibility of altering the situation.Only problem with that is that some armed robbers don't like leaving eye-witnesses.
I think it's silly to hesitate & roll the dice on the chance that the armed robbers wouldn't hurt you & your family, especially when the stakes are literally life & death.
As of July 1st you can bring your gun to work and leave it locked in your car. Unless you work at a school
House Bill 1065
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DIGEST OF HB 1065 (Updated March 4, 2010 9:28 pm - DI 69)
Various provisions concerning firearms. Prohibits a person, including an individual, a corporation, and a governmental entity, from adopting or enforcing a policy or rule that prohibits or has the effect of prohibiting an employee of the person, including a contract employee, from legally possessing a firearm or ammunition that is locked in the trunk of the employee's vehicle, kept in the glove compartment of the employee's locked vehicle, or stored out of sight in the employee's locked vehicle while the vehicle is in or on the person's property, unless the firearm or ammunition requires a certain federal license to possess. Exempts possession of a firearm or ammunition: (1) on school property, on property used by a school for a school function, or on a school bus; (2) on certain child care and shelter facility property; (3) on penal facility property; (4) in violation of federal law; (5) on property belonging to an approved postsecondary educational institution; (6) on the property of a domestic violence shelter; (7) at a person's residence; (8) on the property of a person that is subject to the United States Department of Homeland Security's Chemical Facility Anti-Terrorism Standards and licensed by the United States Nuclear Regulatory Commission; (9) on property owned by a public utility that generates and transmits electric power or a department of public utilities; and (10) in an employee's personal vehicle if the employee is a direct support professional who uses the employee's personal vehicle while transporting an individual with developmental disabilities. Provides that a court does not have jurisdiction over an action that: (1) is brought against an employer who is in compliance with the prohibition against adoption or enforcement of a policy or rule that prohibits the possession of a firearm in a locked vehicle; and (2) is brought to recover for any injury or damage resulting from the employer's compliance. Authorizes a person harmed by a violation to bring a civil action for damages, costs, attorney's fees, and injunctive relief to remedy a violation. Prohibits the state, a political subdivision, or any other person from prohibiting or restricting the lawful possession, transfer, sale, transportation, storage, display, or use of firearms or ammunition during a declared disaster emergency, energy emergency, or local disaster emergency, subject to exceptions that apply to the prohibition against adoption or enforcement of a policy or rule that prohibits the possession of a firearm in a locked vehicle. Repeals provisions that allow certain political subdivisions to adopt emergency ordinances to regulate firearms if a local disaster emergency has been declared. Deletes an outdated reference.Current Status:
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- Action List
[*]Introduced Bill- Fiscal Impact Statement(s): 1(PDF), 2(PDF), 3(PDF), 4(PDF), 5(PDF), 6(PDF), 7(PDF), 8(PDF), 9(PDF)
- Roll Call(s): No. 57(PDF), No. 58(PDF), No. 69(PDF), No. 175(PDF), No. 188(PDF), No. 272(PDF), No. 294(PDF), No. 6905(PDF), No. 7015(PDF)
- Indiana Code Citations Affected<LI sizset="1" sizcache="1">House Committee Reports
<LI sizset="2" sizcache="1">House Amendments
- Filed Committee Reports: 1065-1, 1065-1(PDF)
- Passed Committee Reports: 1065-1, 1065-1(PDF)
- Filed: 1065-1, 1065-1(PDF), 1065-2, 1065-2(PDF), 1065-3, 1065-3(PDF), 1065-4, 1065-4(PDF), 1065-5, 1065-5(PDF), 1065-6, 1065-6(PDF), 1065-7, 1065-7(PDF), 1065-8, 1065-8(PDF), 1065-9, 1065-9(PDF), 1065-D(PDF), 1065-D
- Passed: 1065-1, 1065-1(PDF), 1065-2, 1065-2(PDF)
[*]House Bill<LI sizset="3" sizcache="1">Senate Committee Reports<LI sizset="4" sizcache="1">Senate Amendments
- Filed Committee Reports: 1065-1, 1065-1(PDF)
- Passed Committee Reports: 1065-1, 1065-1(PDF)
- Filed: 1065-1, 1065-1(PDF), 1065-2, 1065-2(PDF), 1065-3, 1065-3(PDF), 1065-4, 1065-4(PDF), 1065-5, 1065-5(PDF), 1065-6, 1065-6(PDF), 1065-7, 1065-7(PDF), 1065-8, 1065-8(PDF), 1065-9, 1065-9(PDF)
- Passed: 1065-2, 1065-2(PDF)
[*]Engrossed Bill<LI sizset="5" sizcache="1">Conference Committee Reports
- Filed Senate Conference Committee Reports: 1065-1, 1065-1(PDF), 1065-2, 1065-2(PDF)
- Passed Senate Conference Committee Reports: 1065-2, 1065-2(PDF)
- Filed House Conference Committee Reports: 1065-1, 1065-1(PDF), 1065-2, 1065-2(PDF)
- Passed House Conference Committee Reports: 1065-2, 1065-2(PDF)
[*]Enrolled Act
So, overall, I'm going to try to not get into a firefight. That's my best chance of surviving. If the situation presents itself that I need to engage, I will.