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Thanks I doubt anyone knew what I was trying to convey with that terrible grammatical error. Thanks for you’re service
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..... Lots of innuendo on their side with a presumption of guilt without basis in fact. .......
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I spent a little time yesterday thinking about landowner exemptions and no I’m not ok with the state’s decision to allow the landed gentry the privlages that the rest of us pay for...
I spent a little time yesterday thinking about landowner exemptions and no I’m not ok with the state’s decision to allow the landed gentry the privlages that the rest of us pay for and will be raising this point at the public input meetings this year.
To further clarify my point on depriving the DNR of valuable resources the website states that
This means that the 333k I stated was lost to landowner exemptions in 2017 is way too low. I forgot to take into account the federal money that the state collects for each license sold.
So yes if you care about the future of the resources then buy a license.
As a “landed gentry”, how will you be submitting for me to have access to these funds? I promise I spend far beyond $50 and a hunting license to improve the habitat and manage the wildlife resources. The wildlife that benefits from my work travel far beyond my farm. Count that and the additional incurred property taxes. You’re getting a deal with just a hunting license.
No, I'm not kidding.
Maybe I shouldn't have said "all" female hunters. If your feathers got ruffled then tuck you bottom lip back in, I'm sorry. No where did I say females can't hunt or are not capable ethical take of game. If you dug that deep into my comment then throw away
the shovel.
When you used to check deer at a check station, one of the local CO's, a good friend of mine, would go to the check station and look over the log book. He'd cross reference addresses of females who tagged a buck, usually wives, of males who tagged a buck under the same address. He'd then make house calls and question the wife. He wrote a lot of tickets for double bucking husbands. One lady didn't know the brand of her bow, what broadheads she used, and when asked to pull the bow back she presented she couldn't. A good friend of mine whose wife is an avid hunter got the house visit. She rattled off her bow brand, explained how she switched to mechanical heads and pulled her bow. Proved the CO she was a hunter. My buddy was not offended he was proud. Still brings it up and talks about it. I know of several women that have checked a buck and have never shot a gun or bow. I know for a fact that it happens a bunch.
If you think this crap doesn't happen, then you are oblivious to the greed of hunters. Now with online checking, I'd say it happens even more. With computer checking I think it would be easier to investigate. A lot easier then going and doing hand writing
analysis and signature comparison like what was described in the OP.
It happens with turkey too. Not all, but some wives have bagged a tom and never shouldered a gun.
Again, I shouldn't have stated ALL female hunters. To clarify and lay it all out. Check wives/girlfriends living under same address as husbands/boyfriends that tagged a buck.
https://www.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/2352.htm
There is the link to how you get your share of those funds. The programs are available to fund habitat improvements on private land.
This is exactly what I was thinking while the situation unfolded. I made the judgement that I would have prevailed with that exchange, but would have also set the stage for years of an adversarial relationship at this property with ICO for years to come. I personally felt in this situation the give on my part made sense long term.
And that’s what is really the shame of it all that you feel you need to subject yourself to the intimidation tactics of a CO rather than press the issue within your rights. I believe the odds are correct with your assumption any perceived resistance on your part could potentially result in greater oversight by the CO.
Thanks I doubt anyone knew what I was trying to convey with that terrible grammatical error. Thanks for you’re service
Thanks I doubt anyone knew what I was trying to convey with that terrible grammatical error. Thanks for you’re service
I had an interesting visit yesterday morning from an Indiana Conservation Officer. He was very polite and professional throughout his visit, but the whole thing had some lines of questioning that surprised me. He correctly stated I had tagged a couple turkey and deer from 2018 on a landowner tag. He then correctly stated when he ran the Morgan county landowner report, no property came back with my name. I let him know I lease the ag rights to the same Morgan County property which I hunt, qualifying me to tag animals under one of the qualifications of landowner exempt. I really thought this should have been the end of the conversation, but he insisted on documentation of such a lease/leasee arrangement. I’m certain in many cases, as I’ve been part of them on both ends involving other situations, that many of these agreements are simple handshake agreements. As it happens, this one was a bit more formal and after digging around, I found a copy of the most current, which became effective mid November ‘18. I showed him this paperwork and he questioned the validity of my illegible signature. Wanting to make his job easy as possible, I demonstrate my signature in front of him, to his satisfaction. Then he noticed the date on the document didn’t include earlier in the seaon, when I tagged my spring turkey. I couldn’t quickly locate that document. I told him I’d check with the landowner to see if they were better record keepers and he left, asking me to email him the previous lease agreement. As it turned out, the landowner did have the document, which I sent over. He responded that all was good now.
I was fairly put off by the line of questioning, as the Indiana Code on the matter makes no mention of any requirements of lease documentation. Although I’m fairly certain the law requires no documentation much less a clear signature, I still feel like these guys have enough trouble without me making his life more difficult. Fortunately I had the paperwork that satisfied his needs and didn’t have to fight this in the courts.
Apparently the state is looking very close at hunters that tag animals as landowner exempt. If you’re the listed owner on the tax records, you’re probably good to go. If you’re tagging under several other scenarios that also qualify for landowner exempt status, make sure you have your ducks in a row!
No, I'm not kidding.
Maybe I shouldn't have said "all" female hunters. If your feathers got ruffled then tuck you bottom lip back in, I'm sorry. No where did I say females can't hunt or are not capable ethical take of game. If you dug that deep into my comment then throw away
the shovel.
When you used to check deer at a check station, one of the local CO's, a good friend of mine, would go to the check station and look over the log book. He'd cross reference addresses of females who tagged a buck, usually wives, of males who tagged a buck under the same address. He'd then make house calls and question the wife. He wrote a lot of tickets for double bucking husbands. One lady didn't know the brand of her bow, what broadheads she used, and when asked to pull the bow back she presented she couldn't. A good friend of mine whose wife is an avid hunter got the house visit. She rattled off her bow brand, explained how she switched to mechanical heads and pulled her bow. Proved the CO she was a hunter. My buddy was not offended he was proud. Still brings it up and talks about it. I know of several women that have checked a buck and have never shot a gun or bow. I know for a fact that it happens a bunch.
If you think this crap doesn't happen, then you are oblivious to the greed of hunters. Now with online checking, I'd say it happens even more. With computer checking I think it would be easier to investigate. A lot easier then going and doing hand writing
analysis and signature comparison like what was described in the OP.
It happens with turkey too. Not all, but some wives have bagged a tom and never shouldered a gun.
Again, I shouldn't have stated ALL female hunters. To clarify and lay it all out. Check wives/girlfriends living under same address as husbands/boyfriends that tagged a buck.
1. Glad you were able to put the situation to rest.
2. What you describe above includes some serious dick moves on the part of the CO.
3. Who doesn't like you that 1) knows what you harvested and then, 2) "raccoon cop SWATted" you?
A question that comes to mind concerns fair chase, wanton waste, and duty to recover. What if you arrow or shoot a deer or turkey on your land ( or leased property ) but don’t drop it immediately and it escapes onto your neighbors ground. If you track the wounded animal onto property not owned by you and finish it off (assuming you have permission from the adjacent landowner) are you now required to have a valid hunting license ?
If you don’t follow up on a wounded animal could you be ticketed for failing to attempt to recover ( or some other infraction ?). If you do follow up can the CO get you for not having a license. Possibly a Catch 22 scenario ?