Multiple dead in shootings at multiple mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand

[Denny347]

We need to stand strong as a nation and not let this event (and the ones we know are forthcoming) divide us. This is what the shooter wants and we cannot allow it to happen.

Too late, this country has NEVER been more divided.

 

[Sylvain]

Too late, this country has NEVER been more divided.

I'm pretty sure it was more divided during the Civil War.

 

[jamil]

Too late, this country has NEVER been more divided.

Maybe in modern times, though the 60s were pretty divided. I mean, ain't nobody bombing stuff right and left. But I'd say the nation was WAY more divided during and the time leading up to the Civil War.

 

[tbhausen]

I've seen a lot worse than this video, that looks like it was filmed with a low resolution potato.

You must not know about LiveLeak.

Oh, I know all about it. I just don’t go choosing to watch this kind of thing.

 

[T.Lex]

May not be a DGU. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8641840/new-zealand-mosque-shooting-christchurch-video/

Yeah, if its in the Sun, chances are there'll be a retraction or "clarification."

Granted, even if that version is closer to accurate, it still isn't bad in terms of DGU.

Something happened at the Linwood mosque that didn't happen at the earlier one. Kinda like Flight 93. Fighting back, even if not totally successful, is better than not.

 

[Scuba591]

Facebook did not do a good job of taking the video down if I can find it on their site. Kinda wish I did not watch it.

 

[jamil]

Yeah, if its in the Sun, chances are there'll be a retraction or "clarification."

Granted, even if that version is closer to accurate, it still isn't bad in terms of DGU.

Something happened at the Linwood mosque that didn't happen at the earlier one. Kinda like Flight 93. Fighting back, even if not totally successful, is better than not.

The score is typically favorable when you fight back as opposed to cowering in place as a stationary target. In this one it was 42-7. If that story pans out, that young man probably saved dozens of lives.

 

[tbhausen]

Too late, this country has NEVER been more divided.

Maybe, if we’re nice, really persuasive, to the people who want to take our rights away because of the evil deeds of others, maybe, just maybe someday they will come around to our point of view. Note: purple text optional.

 

[Denny347]

I'm pretty sure it was more divided during the Civil War.

Yes, in modern times. I guess I needed to preface that.

 

[T.Lex]

To echo jamil (not his real name), the 60s were more divided by almost any measure I can think of. But, there was an easily discernible focus for that division: Vietnam (including the draft). Now, there may have been other issues caught up, or ignored, in favor of focusing on that, but that was pretty much the fault line.

Now, I don't know that there is any one fault line. Rather, a multitude of fissures.

In that respect, the current divisions might be "worse" than the 60s.

 

[jamil]

To echo jamil (not his real name), the 60s were more divided by almost any measure I can think of. But, there was an easily discernible focus for that division: Vietnam (including the draft). Now, there may have been other issues caught up, or ignored, in favor of focusing on that, but that was pretty much the fault line.

Now, I don't know that there is any one fault line. Rather, a multitude of fissures.

In that respect, the current divisions might be "worse" than the 60s.

I think current divisions are bringing us to a more dangerous place.

 

[BigBoxaJunk]

Too late, this country has NEVER been more divided.

I'm pretty sure it was more divided during the Civil War.

Maybe in modern times, though the 60s were pretty divided. I mean, ain't nobody bombing stuff right and left. But I'd say the nation was WAY more divided during and the time leading up to the Civil War.

I do think that, though the "amount" of division can certainly be debated (though not actually quantified), the fact is that our country is divided in a way that has never been experienced.

 

[HoughMade]

My prayers go out to the families of the lost. It's s sick world where people can't even pray in peace.

When the news cycles have moved on to the next thing, we will still have our rights and these families will still have been permanently deprived of a loved one.

First things first.

 

[Trigger Time]

Maybe, if we’re nice, really persuasive, to the people who want to take our rights away because of the evil deeds of others, maybe, just maybe someday they will come around to our point of view. Note: purple text optional.

Exactly. If they want the country back together (they dont), then all they have to do is stop ****ting on the constitutional rights of all citizens.
Until then, we plan on keeping our rights and getting some back.

 

[jamil]

I do think that, though the "amount" of division can certainly be debated (though not actually quantified), the fact is that our country is divided in a way that has never been experienced.

Yeah. We're on the brink of saying freedom ain't all that cool. The press actively lies. People with dissenting viewpoints being mob-shamed and "canceled". Before the radicals just bombed stuff. They were called kooks. Now? Radicals are being embraced. It's a new world indeed and probably one built more enabled by social media than anything.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Watched it.
Too bad somebody didn't have a gun and shoot the jerk.
That's about my only take away from it.

After watching the WTC fall, lesser toll videos just don't have the shock effect.

Because I'm not 100% sure why 9/11 keeps getting brought up... some perspective:

New Zealand is a small country. There were only 35 murders last year, meaning the shooting last night took more lives in minutes than all of 2018.

What happened in Christchurch was like five 9/11s for New Zealand

 

[KG1]

This NZ thing is an obvious example of trying to foment division to the extreme but by no means is this monster the only one trying to create division to a certain extent. (media included) They cannot be allowed to succeed. Ever.

 

[jamil]

This NZ thing is an obvious example of trying to foment division to the extreme but by no means is this monster the only one trying to create division to a certain extent. (media included) They cannot be allowed to succeed. Ever.

Too late.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Christians are slaughtered by Muslims in other countries and nobody cares.

Some crazies knock down the WTC and kill over 3000 and what happens?

They get into congress.

Uhhhh..... nevermind