Its pretty funny that everyone i know had never even heard of shingles until all the cdc commercials started running. I know one person, out of all my immediate and extended family as well as friends, none of us whom were vaccinated, that have gotten shingles. And its ironic, he got the shingles almost 3 months after getting the shingles vaccination. You just keep on drinking that
Can't say much for the education of the people you know...
Shingles, rickets, scurvy, goiters... All common before modern medicine developed vaccines & figured out causes.
Along with measles, mumps, rubella, polio, small pox...
So anti-vaxers, what's the upside of polio or small pox?
(Other than natural selection of anti-vaxers)
One thing you (closet) anti-vaxers get dead wrong,
You have to have chicken pox to get shingles, the vaccinated people DON'T get shingles.
But I guess if you never heard of it you won't get it, or so the science deniers and anti-vaxers say...
Those tin foil hats protect you from more than alien mind control rays!
Can't say much for the education of the people you know...
Shingles, rickets, scurvy, goiters... All common before modern medicine developed vaccines & figured out causes.
Along with measles, mumps, rubella, polio, small pox...
So anti-vaxers, what's the upside of polio or small pox?
(Other than natural selection of anti-vaxers)
One thing you (closet) anti-vaxers get dead wrong,
You have to have chicken pox to get shingles, the vaccinated people DON'T get shingles.
But I guess if you never heard of it you won't get it, or so the science deniers and anti-vaxers say...
Those tin foil hats protect you from more than alien mind control rays!
Vaccinated people don't get shingles?
You might want to tell the researchers that.
The ones that said data shows vaccinated people are HALF as likely.
HALF.
Not NONE.
What researchers are you referring to? From everything that I have read, you CANNOT get shingles unless you have had the Chicken Pox. So, if you are vaccinated against the Chicken Pox & never have it, you won't get shingles. Maybe you are referring to the Shingles vaccine for those unfortunate enough to have already had Chicken Pox, because the Shingles vaccine is not 100% effective.
What researchers are you referring to? From everything that I have read, you CANNOT get shingles unless you have had the Chicken Pox. So, if you are vaccinated against the Chicken Pox & never have it, you won't get shingles. Maybe you are referring to the Shingles vaccine for those unfortunate enough to have already had Chicken Pox, because the Shingles vaccine is not 100% effective.
Can't say much for the education of the people you know...
Shingles, rickets, scurvy, goiters... All common before modern medicine developed vaccines & figured out causes.
Along with measles, mumps, rubella, polio, small pox...
So anti-vaxers, what's the upside of polio or small pox?
(Other than natural selection of anti-vaxers)
One thing you (closet) anti-vaxers get dead wrong,
You have to have chicken pox to get shingles, the vaccinated people DON'T get shingles.
But I guess if you never heard of it you won't get it, or so the science deniers and anti-vaxers say...
Those tin foil hats protect you from more than alien mind control rays!
If you disagree it’s cause you’re an uneducated idiot.
I guess I need to make an appointment for my SRSG shot? (shingles,rickets,scurvy,goiter)
I'm pretty sure that the only vaccines I've ever gotten was tetanus, polio, and small pox (isn't that the one that left that dime-size scar on my shoulder?) and those were many years ago. I've been to the doctor twice in the last 25 or so years.
I've never had the flu vaccine, and to my knowledge, I haven't had the flu since I was like 16. I guess it's those strong Scandinavian genes.
REFUSING a chicken pox vaccination, then contracting chicken pox, with the very real possibility of shingles later on...
Same with polio, same with any other vaccination because some random idiot on the internet posted false information and you CHOOSE to believe that over actual science.
No.
Uneducated means you are simply ignorant of the facts.
Education kills ignorance.
Ignorance of a particular subject doesn't mean you are an idiot or stupid, it simply means you never had cause to study the particular subject at hand in a conversation.
Stupid/idiotic is having decades of study by actual professionals at hand,
And still willfully ignoring proper & correct information.
Case study at hand,
REFUSING a chicken pox vaccination, then contracting chicken pox, with the very real possibility of shingles later on...
Same with polio, same with any other vaccination because some random idiot on the internet posted false information and you CHOOSE to believe that over actual science.
Same with the measles epidemic right now...
Science denying anti-vaxers are suffering the effects of something that should have been eradicated in this country due to herd immunity.
Thanks a bunch for running the US backwards into a 3rd world country in respect to vaccines...
What's the next wave? Polio? Buy stock in iron lung makers...
It takes a generation that doesn't know what an iron lung is to make a decision that stupid.
No one can change a 'Belief', you have to do that yourself...
I'm not at all sure that "actual science" has enough data over a long enough period of time to determine that immunity gained from vaccines provides a better over-all outcome, for ALL of the infectious diseases for which a vaccine exists, over the long term for either the individual or for a population.
If I was asked if I was an Anti-vaxxer, I'd answer "Yes, and No."
Polio, Small Pox, and some others, definitely "Yes"
Influenza, Shingles, and some others, definitely (for me) "No"
Whats funny is you take what you call "actual" science and totally trust in it. Im guessing you probably believe "global warming" is real too.
Ive seen first hand that my Aunt got the polio vaccine, then within a month become crippled to live out her days with the effects of Polio. Ive seen first hand someone get shingles who had just gotten the vaccination. Ive see first hand the effects of friends getting their children the Hpv vaccination and now are permanently in a wheel chair.
I see every year several friends and family who get the flu shot, get the flu.
Its not about making you immune or better, its about the pharmaceutical companies making money!
I for one will not just blindly listen to the cdc or .gov and trust them wholeheartedly, but i do not have a problem if you do. Thats your choice to make, not mine. But quit pushing your bs statements as fact, because they are not!
Way to pile on children... 4th grade school lot tactics...
And way to go on trying to change the subject when you can't keep up with the subject at hand.
As for your first paragraph, yes, global warming is very real, and the current round is most certainly man made, before you ask that question.
The biosphere spent 4.5 billion years sequestering carbon so the current oxygen rich, low gasified carbon environment that humans can survive in, and 8 billion humans are doing their level best to release that carbon back into the atmosphere.
Ice cores from the last 4 million years conclusively prove the 'Industrial Age' has released a specific kind of carbon only produced by combustion.
The leaves of that carbon rise specifically with the population rise, and rise of the 'Industrial Age'.
If you don't understand that, or choose to ignore it, that's YOUR CHOICE.
It just makes you dead wrong...
As to second paragraph,
Nope, I call BS.
The odds of actually having three major vaccine failures in one family are astronomical, particular since the HPV vaccine is very new hand has no paralyzing side effects recorded...
You would have to be 75+ years old...
Best buy lottery tickets, you have a MUCH better chance of winning the lottery than to have 3 major vaccine failures in one family.
As for cost of common vaccines, somewhere between $20 and $140.
You run out and get the 'Latest-Greatest' designer stuff, I have no idea.
The VA keeps my vaccinations current, the wife spends between $0 and $10 on co-pay.
As for the last line,
CDC, National Institute Of Health, every research University, every foreign country research, the World Heath Organization,
Historical research from 1796, eradication of small pox, knocking polio back to double digit cases a year, etc is all lies,
And your 'Source' for anti-vaxer propaganda has the 'Truth'...
Sure. Right....