2011NFADay: NFA Days 2011 Date and Time!

[shooter521]

Hopefully my stamp gets approved and I can attend my first NFA day so next year I can go to the alumni!

Sorry guy; if you've got a stamp in process, you're no longer an NFA newbie and therefore do not qualify for NFA Day...

 

[redneckmedic]

Real estate - serious business.

That's what I was thinking... but my can is from Remax

 

[irishfan]

Sorry guy; if you've got a stamp in process, you're no longer an NFA newbie and therefore do not qualify for NFA Day...

So if you have never been to an NFA day and are awaiting your first stamp you can't go to either day? Why is that? If you can't go to the newbie NFA day then how can you ever go to alumni day?

 

[lovemywoods]

So if you have never been to an NFA day and are awaiting your first stamp you can't go to either day? Why is that? If you can't go to the newbie NFA day then how can you ever go to alumni day?

You have zoomed in on an issue that has had lengthly discussion by the NFA Days planning group. We started the NFA Day in 2008 with the objective of education of those who have not entered the NFA process. People who have applied for or have received a tax stamp aren't our target audience.

In the second year, Alumni Day was added to allow those who attended NFA Day to show some of the gear they had acquired.

Because of the educational objective, there are people with NFA items that fall outside of our program.

We realize that we don't have the resources (time, money, location) to host the full number of NFA enthusiasts we have here on INGO. That's just the reality of the situation.

For those that don't qualify for our program; I encourage you to plan and host other NFA-themed events around the state (open shoots, suppressor/SBR/machine gun specific events, etc). INGO is big enough to support multiple NFA type events each year. It takes a bit of work, but can be lots of fun!

 

[VUPDblue]

So if you have never been to an NFA day and are awaiting your first stamp you can't go to either day? Why is that? If you can't go to the newbie NFA day then how can you ever go to alumni day?

Because the whole premise of NFA Day is to educate folks who are totally green to the NFA experience. We have always taken enjoyment in showing folks that the mysterious items many believe to be illegal are not and are actually very fun things to enjoy. This was born of our desire to share our sport and protect it through sheer numbers of owners, one big voice in the case that the freedoms to own such things are ever threatened. Having folks who are familiar with the process and experience in attendance is contrary to the spirit of what we are trying to accomplish.

I would LOVE to have a large-scale, everyone is invited, NFA shoot, but I can't seem to come up with a venue. If you'd like to help me out in finding one, I promise I'll do all the leg work to make it happen

 

[ZbornacSVT]

This is a very confusing sentence when contexted with NFA items...
Are you bring a can that is 10.5" long?
or
If you bring some steel, can you be a vendor?

Depends. Which one gets me in?

 

[Clay]

Excellent!

 

[chezuki]

So, since I was at NFA day last year, but have yet to acquire an NFA item, I do NOT qualify for the alumni shoot?? Is this correct?

 

[Clay]

the only requirement to go to NFA alumni day is that you first attend an NFA day. No requirement to have actually purchased an NFA item that Im aware of.

 

[VUPDblue]

What Clay said.

 

[Stainer]

Sorry guy; if you've got a stamp in process, you're no longer an NFA newbie and therefore do not qualify for NFA Day...

Wow.... that really blows.... I was building this thing in hopes to show it off for NFA day, because I thought the premise of it was for everyone to enjoy NFA items, but now apparently I won't ever be able to participate in an NFA day. That's . Oh well....

 

[Stainer]

I would LOVE to have a large-scale, everyone is invited, NFA shoot, but I can't seem to come up with a venue. If you'd like to help me out in finding one, I promise I'll do all the leg work to make it happen

I guess I can see how this would be a challenge, I was always just under the impression that NFA day was just another INGO event. Did not know there was criteria behind it that needed to be upheld. So the next step, Large-scale NFA shoot. I will look forward to whenever that can be set-up. I don't really have many resources, so I can't really do much in the way of setting it up, but would be more then happy to volunteer some time to set-up and clean up if this happens

 

[VUPDblue]

I guess I can see how this would be a challenge, I was always just under the impression that NFA day was just another INGO event. Did not know there was criteria behind it that needed to be upheld. So the next step, Large-scale NFA shoot. I will look forward to whenever that can be set-up. I don't really have many resources, so I can't really do much in the way of setting it up, but would be more then happy to volunteer some time to set-up and clean up if this happens

That's awesome and I appreciate the offer! It turns out that I may have a venue now that this thread has been seen by some that can help a brotha out! Anyway, I think my next undertaking may be a large-scale NFA shoot sometime in the not so distant future.

 

[KDUBCR250]

Sounds like a blast

 

[88GT]

Good. Last year's announcement was so cryptic I had no idea what it was for. And by the time I did it was too late.

 

[GhostofWinter]

Hopefully my stamp gets approved and I can attend my first NFA day so next year I can go to the alumni!

I believe that having already started the process of getting the stamp you are no longer elgible for the NFA day. I am sure someone come along and verify this. (unless they already have. I haven't read through the entire thread yet)

 

[DaKruiser]

Wouaw NFA day has been an amazing experience

NFA Day is an amazing experience, thanks to people like you and the Rice family.

Thank You

I can't wait!

 

[XDinmyXJ]

Oh snap, gonna put this in my calendar so i can remember to sign up for the noob day!

 

[JTinIN]

I would LOVE to have a large-scale, everyone is invited, NFA shoot, but I can't seem to come up with a venue. If you'd like to help me out in finding one, I promise I'll do all the leg work to make it happen

It appears there may not really be a way to have a venue that allows an open mix of shooting NFA owners and newbies, nor nearly any way to have an open NFA shoot in general, as any shoot that works well tends to grow too large and thus be limited to the first few years of shooters (i.e. KCR over the last several dozen years) and/or die off due to the effort it takes to run and/or just getting too large to be fun for the organizers.

There are many local private shoots that range from a half dozen shooters up to however many can fit in the length of the firing line (one of which was discussed last year here in the fall ;-). However, unless you are related to one of the shooters or best buds with the land owner, there is almost never an invite for newbies.

The NFA Day is an interesting start, however, still does not get the new NFA machinegun owners connected with the vast majority of every day existing NFA shooters, excluding the few hosting the shoot.

One interesting option for an open shoot would be an INGO day to KCR in Ky (ok not Indiana but not that many open ranges that allow NFA). We use to do this in the past for friends, KCR Shoot March 1997, however, the last few years everyone is older and always has a different day that is better or just shoots on private ranges. The major issues of ammo quality (one really needs to shoot only what the owner shoots, instead of the cheapest mass reloads or Paragon ammo) and liability of someone gets hurt (been known to happen). Due to heath issues I am out of match and shoot promotion projects for the near future.

 

[irishfan]

You have zoomed in on an issue that has had lengthly discussion by the NFA Days planning group. We started the NFA Day in 2008 with the objective of education of those who have not entered the NFA process. People who have applied for or have received a tax stamp aren't our target audience.

In the second year, Alumni Day was added to allow those who attended NFA Day to show some of the gear they had acquired.

Because of the educational objective, there are people with NFA items that fall outside of our program.

We realize that we don't have the resources (time, money, location) to host the full number of NFA enthusiasts we have here on INGO. That's just the reality of the situation.

For those that don't qualify for our program; I encourage you to plan and host other NFA-themed events around the state (open shoots, suppressor/SBR/machine gun specific events, etc). INGO is big enough to support multiple NFA type events each year. It takes a bit of work, but can be lots of fun!

Because the whole premise of NFA Day is to educate folks who are totally green to the NFA experience. We have always taken enjoyment in showing folks that the mysterious items many believe to be illegal are not and are actually very fun things to enjoy. This was born of our desire to share our sport and protect it through sheer numbers of owners, one big voice in the case that the freedoms to own such things are ever threatened. Having folks who are familiar with the process and experience in attendance is contrary to the spirit of what we are trying to accomplish.

I would LOVE to have a large-scale, everyone is invited, NFA shoot, but I can't seem to come up with a venue. If you'd like to help me out in finding one, I promise I'll do all the leg work to make it happen

I understand what you both are saying but really think it is far from fair. I did order my first suppressor but won't even be able to send in my paperwork before the shoot. I don't currently "own" any items but since I decided to buy something from what I have read on the web and word of mouth then I am out. That is far from fair when I am a new NFA person wanting to get into it more and you have people probably coming to the alumni shoot haven't bought anything at all that is in the NFA arena after going to their first NFA day.