Robert Richardson
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The Swedes did. Known as the Ag M/42 in 6.5x55, better known as the Ljungman in the U.S.
I stand corrected.
The Swedes did. Known as the Ag M/42 in 6.5x55, better known as the Ljungman in the U.S.
The Japs did also but went to the 7.7 when they saw the holes their machine guns made...
I vote thermonuclear device, and go for the head shot...
I loved mine when I had it. Finding the brass after a range session was always a challenge.No mention of the C308. Seems like a solid rifle based on a proven design for a great price.
I loved mine when I had it. Finding the brass after a range session was always a challenge.
No mention of the C308. Seems like a solid rifle based on a proven design for a great price.
Interesting comments :
I am looking to buy an AR10/308 .. probably the POF P308 EDGE 16.5"
I am getting the 308 so as not to fund a new to me caliber.
Plus, it'll be a terrific high capacity shooter to go along side of my TIKKA T3x TAC A1 precision bolt rifle.
What are your thoughts.??
Workhorse you say? The M14 and all of its variants have been in service with the Army and Marine Corps since July of 1959.... Longest serving service rifle in US history.
Thousands of standard M14's served in just Afghanistan.
It's also one of the shortest serving weapons because it was in official service as a primary battle rifle less than a decade before being displaced by the AR.
I personally despise M14s, but I'm willing to admit a secret charm someone might find that I'm missing. For me, I'll skip the weight, recoil, and general clunkiness. Yeah it costs more but an SR25 is not going to break or let you down.
I personally see value in having a semi auto rifle chambered in every major military caliber with high global production values. I recommend owning an AK just because 7.62x39. I'd recommend having a .308 rifle just because it's a NATO standard. Everyone should own a 9mm even if they prefer another caliber. You simply have to be able to shoot 9mm for the same reason every military vehicle has to be able to run on jet fuel.
That said ammo availability is THE ONLY compelling reason for .308. It is outperformed in every way by 7-08 and in almost all cases by .260 and 6.5crd also.
Someday, someone will realize that a 7-08 gas gun shooting 162 AMAX/ELD is a heck of combination with more range and less recoil than M118LR. Silly Americans and our obsession with .30 caliber. We're stuck with it today as we've been since pre-WW1.
Then again, all your local 7-08 ammo is going to be a lightweight deer load that really handicaps the capability. Handloading is a must to optimize it.
Not true. Simple Fact...The M14 service rifle has been in service and limited service since 1964. Its still in service.
And it wasn't the Ar that replaced it as a standard service rifle, It was the M16
So part of me really wants to get a 308 ar-10. I have no real reason but would like to make it the workhorse rifle. Thinking a 1x6 scope. I guess the problem is right now is a crapy time to buy a gun and ammo which I have none of in this caliber. On the flip side I could buy another AR and do the same thing.
Currently have a DD SBR in 556 and a SW in 556 that is set up with a big scope for long distance. Looking to fill the gap. Already have a 308 suppressor too but not really a bonus as I can still use it on a 556. I guess it's the ammo that scares me right now more then anything. I have 556 in plenty
I was leaning toward the Saint Victor in 308 or the S&W open to other brands as well but would like to stay in the $1,300 give or take a few hundred. Main goal would be to have a rifle that runs well suppressed as 99% will be shooting that way.