Armed Communists/Antifa March in Georgia

[Route 45]

antifa are cut from a different cloth... I don't remember any pro-2A marches that resulted in trying to kill police officers...

https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...motivated-violence-thread-57.html#post7817747

"Meh"

Also, they are "just playing Army" and "expressing their rights."

 

[bwframe]

I'll rephrase my question;

Was antifa carrying longs guns to express their rights...





...or to intimidate???

 

[T.Lex]

Or to protect themselves while protesting?

We (all gun owners) ought to tread carefully in trying to put this activity neatly into either the "intimidation" or "expressing 2A rights" buckets.

 

[Kutnupe14]

I'll rephrase my question;

Was antifa carrying longs guns to express their rights...





...or to intimidate???

First, who are they trying to intimidate?

 

[OakRiver]

Or to protect themselves while protesting?

We (all gun owners) ought to tread carefully in trying to put this activity neatly into either the "intimidation" or "expressing 2A rights" buckets.

Whatever restriction you are willing to place on anyone bearing arms peacefully, be prepared to have those (and worse) applied against you by those who are not a fan of the 2A.

 

[T.Lex]

Whatever restriction you are willing to place on anyone bearing arms peacefully, be prepared to have those (and worse) applied against you by those who are not a fan of the 2A.

Exactly.

 

[printcraft]

Exactly.

Oh, I'm not saying they "can't" I'm saying it's apples and oranges compared to a traditional 2A marcher.

Their motives are NOT the same.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Oh, I'm not saying they "can't" I'm saying it's apples and oranges compared to a traditional 2A marcher.

Their motives are NOT the same.

It seemed to me the marchers with firearms were protecting the other marchers. Were they not?

 

[jamil]

Or to protect themselves while protesting?

We (all gun owners) ought to tread carefully in trying to put this activity neatly into either the "intimidation" or "expressing 2A rights" buckets.

Well, look to twitter. It’s not like they keep their motives secret. It’s NOT for the express purpose of supporting 2a rights. It’s more like a show of force.

 

[printcraft]

It seemed to me the marchers with firearms were protecting the other marchers. Were they not?

Yes, that typically is NOT what is going on with a 2A march. The comparison as "these are the same thing" is not valid.

See Below VVVVVVVVVVV

Well, look to twitter. It’s not like they keep their motives secret. It’s NOT for the express purpose of supporting 2a rights. It’s more like a show of force.

This ^^^^^^^

 

[T.Lex]

Oh, I'm not saying they "can't" I'm saying it's apples and oranges compared to a traditional 2A marcher.

Their motives are NOT the same.

"Motive" is ill-defined, among humans.

Let's say there's an abortion-rights march, and some of them feel the need (reasonably) to protect themselves during it by carry M-1 Garands.

They aren't marching for the 2A. They are marching for abortion.

(I would argue that both these antifa and the armed abortionist marchers ARE marching in support of the 2A, albeit indirectly.)

 

[printcraft]

Problem is that you have dumb****s that will be lumped into “gun rights advocate” when they do dumb**** that will used as a platform to remove gun rights from the non dumb****s out there.


Politicians use dumb**** activities all the time to try to curtail gun rights.
“Guns are bad, look at the number of homicides in Chicago because of guns!, we need stricter gun laws!!”


HINT: This has NOTHING to do with guns, it has EVERYTHING to do with dumb**** activities.

 

[T.Lex]

Problem is that you have dumb****s that will be lumped into “gun rights advocate” when they do dumb**** that will used as a platform to remove gun rights from the non dumb****s out there.


Politicians use dumb**** activities all the time to try to curtail gun rights.
“Guns are bad, look at the number of homicides in Chicago because of guns!, we need stricter gun laws!!”


HINT: This has NOTHING to do with guns, it has EVERYTHING to do with dumb**** activities.

I'm not following.

Like abortion rights protests? Are those dumb**** activities?

For me, it comes back to the 1A. The more people there are who exercise the 2A to exercise their 1A (peaceably), the better it is for all gun rights advocates. (If for no other reason than those of "us" on "this" side of the debate can point to them and say, "Yeah, that's why we need the 2A. To protect from those idiots.")

(And I'm kinda ok with them saying the same thing about "us.")

 

[Kutnupe14]

Problem is that you have dumb****s that will be lumped into “gun rights advocate” when they do dumb**** that will used as a platform to remove gun rights from the non dumb****s out there.


Politicians use dumb**** activities all the time to try to curtail gun rights.
“Guns are bad, look at the number of homicides in Chicago because of guns!, we need stricter gun laws!!”


HINT: This has NOTHING to do with guns, it has EVERYTHING to do with dumb**** activities.

Is that a problem? Do you prefer that "dumb****s" have less of a right to support the 2A? Personally, I believe that those with the most unpopular of ideals, are the ones that need their rights protected MOST fiercely. I know, I know, crazy talk.

 

[printcraft]

I'm not following.

Like abortion rights protests? Are those dumb**** activities?

For me, it comes back to the 1A. The more people there are who exercise the 2A to exercise their 1A (peaceably), the better it is for all gun rights advocates. (If for no other reason than those of "us" on "this" side of the debate can point to them and say, "Yeah, that's why we need the 2A. To protect from those idiots.")

(And I'm kinda ok with them saying the same thing about "us.")

Is that a problem? Do you prefer that "dumb****s" have less of a right to support the 2A? Personally, I believe that those with the most unpopular of ideals, are the ones that need their rights protected MOST fiercely. I know, I know, crazy talk.

I refuse to believe either of you are this dense.

Premise: Gangbangers in chicago are the basis for restricting gun rights for the rest of America and are used as "typical 2A supporter".

Go.

 

[femurphy77]

Where's the Blues Brothers when you need them?

 

[T.Lex]

I refuse to believe either of you are this dense.

Premise: Gangbangers in chicago are the basis for restricting gun rights for the rest of America and are used as "typical 2A supporter".

Go.

Speaking of density... this is a thread about antifa protesting while armed.

Elucidate me/us on what "gangbangers in Chicago" are protesting.

Go.

 

[printcraft]

Speaking of density... this is a thread about antifa protesting while armed.

Elucidate me/us on what "gangbangers in Chicago" are protesting.

Go.

Example of dumb**** activity being lumped into "typical 2A, it's all the same".

Antifa are not typical 2A supporters no matter how you want to spin it. They would HAPPILY remove it for everyone else given the opportunity.

Maybe I spoke too quickly in my beliefs earlier...

 

[jwamplerusa]

Hmmmm... I thought most INGO'ers were just Americans.

 

[Route 45]

Can't wait to see ISIS marching down the street with their weapons so we can continue to completely ignore the threat that the group poses to the republic, so we can bicker over their 2nd Amendment rights.

There was a time in this country when communists were considered enemies. We even sent troops to far away lands to kill them. Now they are marching down the streets right here at home. If you missed the news, one of them tried to kill 2 police officers in Oregon and was (thankfully) put out of his misery. Antifa then placed an IED outside of the local police department.

I haven't seen one post saying that they should be disarmed. But yeah..."muh gun rights."