Armed Communists/Antifa March in Georgia

[KellyinAvon]

Full disclosure: I hate communism. With that said...

If ANTIFA showed up anywhere, would it be a concern? Yes. This is a group known for violence and destruction of property.

When a whole bunch of bikers (and I mean 1%er outlaw bike gang bikers) showed up in Indianapolis, was it a concern? Yes. Were they allowed to assemble? Yes. Were the Police everywhere? Yes.

Doggy Daddy's 44 second video showed part of a very large crowd that was incredibly polite, left the area cleaner than when we arrived, and oh yes, very heavily armed. People who are polite and considerate are great to have around! Nobody went to the hospital, no property was destroyed. Most flags were Stars and Stripes or Gadsden. Nearly all attendees were armed.

Despite what many seem to think we aren't the problem. If a group has a history of being the problem? Keep that in mind.

 

[churchmouse]

Well it was ambiguous, and we know there are those type of persons here too.

Ok folks.
Lets leave Ingo out of this please.

 

[bwframe]

I'll rephrase my question;

Was antifa carrying longs guns to express their rights...





...or to intimidate???

Wow, think I phrased it right that time.

Good discussion. Very informative.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Wow, think I phrased it right that time.

Good discussion. Very informative.

Well, one is a crime and one isn't. If you want to remain steadfast in this binary choice, then if you don't believe they were there to express their rights, then you default to them committing the crime of intimidation, which of course would require that their firearms be seized, and they face a criminal penalty. So which do you believe?

 

[jamil]

Well, one is a crime and one isn't. If you want to remain steadfast in this binary choice, then if you don't believe they were there to express their rights, then you default to them committing the crime of intimidation, which of course would require that their firearms be seized, and they face a criminal penalty. So which do you believe?

Uh, maybe I missed a post somewhere. That happens sometimes cross posting. But it seems you’re framing a binary that wasn’t stated. Did he call for the arrest of these peolme for intimidation? Did he say it was criminal intimidation. Or, did he say that their intent was just to intimidate people.

I think their motive wasn’t exactly to intimidate per se. But it’s related to that. They’ve made it clear they want a war with Idunno, the “fash”? Whoever the **** that imagined enemy is. The demonstration was a show of force. As well, they may have had a secondary purpose of feigning to protect their comrades from imaginary foes.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Uh, maybe I missed a post somewhere. That happens sometimes cross posting. But it seems you’re framing a binary that wasn’t stated. Did he call for the arrest of these peolme for intimidation? Did he say it was criminal intimidation. Or, did he say that their intent was just to intimidate people.

I think their motive wasn’t exactly to intimidate per se. But it’s related to that. They’ve made it clear they want a war with Idunno, the “fash”? Whoever the **** that imagined enemy is. The demonstration was a show of force. As well, they may have had a secondary purpose of feigning to protect their comrades from imaginary foes.

I am unaware of any instance where intimidation with the use of guns isn't a crime.

 

[jamil]

I am unaware of any instance where intimidation with the use of guns isn't a crime.

Perhaps you are using a more formal definition.

 

[jamil]

Or hell. My take could be completely full of ****. Maybe bwframe really meant that they fit the legal definition of intimidation and advocates they all be arrested charged with fellonies, have their guns confiscated, thrown in jail, lose their gun rights forever. But I think I’m not all that full of ****. I think you’re injecting some things not intended.

 

[Mongo59]

In the current environment I am sure someone with a picture of a gun on their shirt that gets into an argument would be found equally guilty...

 

[BugI02]

Uh, maybe I missed a post somewhere. That happens sometimes cross posting. But it seems you’re framing a binary that wasn’t stated. Did he call for the arrest of these peolme for intimidation? Did he say it was criminal intimidation. Or, did he say that their intent was just to intimidate people.

I think their motive wasn’t exactly to intimidate per se. But it’s related to that. They’ve made it clear they want a war with Idunno, the “fash”? Whoever the **** that imagined enemy is. The demonstration was a show of force. As well, they may have had a secondary purpose of feigning to protect their comrades from imaginary foes.

I agree on the secondary purpose. I'm sure you noticed in the video that there were several cameramen moving about within the crowd. When ShotgunMoron is the center of attention on camera, he very dramatically walks in a slight crouch turning often, head swiveling; as if he's walking patrol in Kandahar and not at a protest in Georgia. Other times when the cameras are centered on other aspects of the crowd, he can be spotted in the background just walking normally without all the drama. He's the only armed individual I spotted making such a big production out of it, and at one point I think one of the guys with the ARs says something to him about muzzle discipline/sweeping. Surprised no AKs; you know, communists and all

 

[Brad69]

This thread is whacked (do the kids still say that )

Here you guys go

Socialist Rifle Association https://socialistra.org/edu/

The Stone Mountain thing was guarded by elements of the red neck revolt!

https://www.redneckrevolt.org/

“We had a march and left wing milita guarded us from ambush”

This is from the organizers of the protest.

Its not about pro2A or right to protest its two different views on what “government” should look like.

1. Representative Republic

2. Communist/Socialist Utopia

 

[klausm]

"get off my yard!"

 

[printcraft]

"get off my yard!"

 

[femurphy77]

Hmmmm... I thought most INGO'ers were just Americans.

Nah, some of them are from (shudder)Illinois!

 

[GIJEW]

"get off my yard!"

The unabridged version: "Whose streets? OUR streets!"

"All ya-all ain't from around hea'uh, an' git out m' yard!"

 

[femurphy77]

[video=youtube;0gBSCd8R83g]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gBSCd8R83g[/video]

 

[engi-ninja]

This has been an interesting "discussion." My take is, as long as they're not breaking any laws, they're just as free as anybody else to march around carrying guns.

The challenging part of freedom is that it allows bad people the freedom to do bad things too. There is a certain amount (or even a great amount) of risk involved in freedom; but freedom is worth the risk 100 times over. People are often frightened by this notion, because they've become so used to relying on someone else (the government) to take care of them. "If we DON'T have background checks, then bad people can easily go to the store and buy a gun!" Yes, that's true, and it's part of the cost freedom, and it's well worth it. Freedom requires good people to take responsibility for themselves and their own safety, which is the whole idea behind carrying firearms. The act of carrying a gun implies (or should, anyway) the statement "I take full responsible for the immediate safety myself and my family." The idea that the government exists to take care of us as individuals, and protect each of us from everything and everyone, including our own stupidity, is mutually exclusive with the concept of freedom.

So, let the commies march, armed or not, as long as they're not "violating the laws of God or the rights of their fellow men." The same freedom that allows them to march with guns allows us to be prepared, should they become violent, to defend ourselves and our families from them.

Anyway, that's my 2 cents, for whatever it's worth.

 

[bwframe]

Were the marchers safe while parading with their long guns? Do they represent the rest of us gun owners well, as being responsible gun owners themselves?

 

[T.Lex]

Were the marchers safe while parading with their long guns? Do they represent the rest of us gun owners well, as being responsible gun owners themselves?

Wait.

Is that the test?

What percentage of gun owners at a public range could pass that?

 

[engi-ninja]

Were the marchers safe while parading with their long guns? Do they represent the rest of us gun owners well, as being responsible gun owners themselves?

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