Bill of sale

[rlfrye]

Well,some people think I am an arse, so if ya need a video to see for yourself, it could be arranged.

 

[walleyepw]

Depending on the person trying to purchase the firearm, I "might" be an A$$ and ask to sign a bill of sale. But most of the time a full set of prints and a DNA swab will be sufficient.

 

[Joniki]

There sure is a tough bunch around these parts. SMH....

 

[Tyler-The-Piker]

There's negligence, there's apathy, there's ignorance, there's coverin' yer a**, there's being smart about it, crossing the line, being a jerk, and just plain tin foil hat...it certainly runs the gamut

 

[PGRChaplain]

I guess the Camera part would Negate any Sales to Amish..........

 

[phatgemi]

Only rationale I can think of is that he only has three posts and hasn't been properly indoctrinated yet.
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[CraigAPS]

There sure is a tough bunch around these parts. SMH....

I'm just hoping this doesn't turn him off of the site! As a relative "newbie," INGO can be a tough crowd...but they grow on you...like a fungus...

 

[1775usmarine]

Geez.........

What a rookie. He should have asked for three reference and a note from his mother!

I remember another post where a grown man couldn't keep his Springer XD because his mom said no

Another INGO classic.

 

[Dutch68]

Any Originating Paperwork follows the Original Buyer , so you do whatever feels right for you. You do not need to go to that extreme , but if it makes you feel better so be it.
You are the one in charge here !

 

[mcapo]

Personally, if the ATF knocks on my door, I want to be able to prove that I completed my due diligence as a seller or buyer. That takes a single piece of paper and some identifying information though video taping the transaction seems extreme. Frankly, I think I would have walked at that request.

The being said, I did recently make a purchase from a forum member and forgot to bring a bill of sale and am still able to sleep at night...I did write down his name and address from his driver's license for my records.

We are just one Democratic majority away from losing the ability to complete a private transfer of a firearm without a background check. Please buy and sell responsibly.

 

[Expat]

Personally, if the ATF knocks on my door, I want to be able to prove that I completed my due diligence as a seller or buyer. That takes a single piece of paper and some identifying information though video taping the transaction seems extreme. Frankly, I think I would have walked at that request.

The being said, I did recently make a purchase from a forum member and forgot to bring a bill of sale and am still able to sleep at night...I did write down his name and address from his driver's license for my records.

We are just one Democratic majority away from losing the ability to complete a private transfer of a firearm without a background check. Please buy and sell responsibly.

I made up a stack of bills of sale all made out to a guy named mcapo for all of the guns I have sold off over the years.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Personally, if the ATF knocks on my door, I want to be able to prove that I completed my due diligence as a seller or buyer. That takes a single piece of paper and some identifying information though video taping the transaction seems extreme. Frankly, I think I would have walked at that request.

The being said, I did recently make a purchase from a forum member and forgot to bring a bill of sale and am still able to sleep at night...I did write down his name and address from his driver's license for my records.

We are just one Democratic majority away from losing the ability to complete a private transfer of a firearm without a background check. Please buy and sell responsibly.

I understand your sentiment, but would point out that you are only liable for doing what you are legally required to do, specifically verifying that the buyer is a legal resident of the state and having no reason to believe the person is not legally allowed to buy a gun. The law here is very much a 'don't ask, don't tell' sort of thing in practice. That said, what makes you feel comfortable is your business.

I can also understand you thinking about handing political hay to the other side, but as long as a certain gun shop know for boorish late night commercials is selling to the usual group of straw buyers, I really doubt that anything you do with a sale once in a great while is going to make any political difference.

 

[wagyu52]

Here's the problem, by going above and beyond what the law requires for butt cover could also be construed as doubt whether you thought the buyer was indeed a proper person able to purchase.
Another angle on this is keeping written records on what is suppose to be a hobby puts you dangerously close to a business.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Here's the problem, by going above and beyond what the law requires for butt cover could also be construed as doubt whether you thought the buyer was indeed a proper person able to purchase.
Another angle on this is keeping written records on what is suppose to be a hobby puts you dangerously close to a business.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

You are the one in charge here !

Actually buyer and seller are both in "charge". Either can refuse to do businesses with each other.

I understand your sentiment, but would point out that you are only liable for doing what you are legally required to do, specifically verifying that the buyer is a legal resident of the state and having no reason to believe the person is not legally allowed to buy a gun. The law here is very much a 'don't ask, don't tell' sort of thing in practice. That said, what makes you feel comfortable is your business.

You don't have to verify they are a legal resident of the state, just have no reason to believe they are not one. Same as if they are legally allowed to own one.

 

[Solars77]

Dash cam

 

[Solars77]

The only reason for Bill of sale was to prove it was sold. I had been on many forums that said it was a good idea. The dash cam was in case something went bad. Yes I am paranoid.

 

[wtburnette]

The only reason for Bill of sale was to prove it was sold. I had been on many forums that said it was a good idea. The dash cam was in case something went bad. Yes I am paranoid.

No reason to be paranoid, you just have to follow the law. The law says the person you sell to has to be an IN resident and you have to have no reason to suspect they're not a "proper person". LTCH takes care of that. Anything more is just not needed.

 

[wagyu52]

A better idea is to get your 50 posts in here and/or become a site supporter and sell on INGO

 

[Expat]

Whenever I read through these threads, I always understand the polls that say a lot of gun owners support "common sense gun control".