CMP 1911 Update

[88E30M50]

Wow, there's a lot of butt-hurt in the comments section. I guess that a lot of folks were hoping that they would go for chump change. From what I'm seeing, they are pricing them at below market for the entry level stuff. Not too many USGI 1911s out there for $800 now days.

 

[Thor]

CMP has not published any numbers yet...all they have said is the price will probably be based on supply and demand:

11/22/17 - Latest update on the 1911’s…..Because of the limited number and the exceedingly high demand for the pistol, and the great level of Congressional scrutiny, the Board of Directors will make a decision regarding how sales will be handled. We have no further information at this time. – Mrs. Judith Legerski, Chairman, CMP Board of Directors

I guess we'll have to wait and see what number of weapons are released and how many want them.

Also...still waiting on the NDAA to be signed.

 

[12many]

CMP 1911

Just received this in an email from CMP 2 hours ago. Starting to get excited!! Sorry if it is a dupe

CMP 1911 Information

To all CMP constituents: The CMP Board of Directors has discussed at length how the sales of 1911s would be handled, if the CMP were to ever receive them from the United States Army. Some preliminary decisions: Decisions concerning the grade and pricing of the 1911s will not be made until inspection has occurred of a substantial quantity which will take an estimated 150 days post receipt. All laws pertaining to the sale of 1911s by CMP will be strictly obeyed. Potential purchasers will have to provide to CMP a new set of documents exhibiting: 1) proof of U.S. Citizenship, 2) proof of membership in a CMP affiliated club, 3) proof of participation in a marksmanship activity, 4) a new form 2A with notary, 5) successful completion of a NICS background check, 6) a signed copy of the 01 Federal Firearms License in which the 1911 will be transferred to. The CMP customer will be required to complete a form 4473 in person and successfully complete another NICS check by the recipient FFL holder before the pistol can be transferred. Qualified CMP customer will only be allowed to purchase one 1911 per calendar year. No 1911s available in the CMP stores, or on line, only mail order sales. CMP will set the date in which it will accept orders for the 1911s. The date will be posted to the world. Orders will only be accepted via mail order delivery. Orders will only be accepted post marked on the date or after, no early orders. Once CMP receives 10,000 orders, customer names will be loaded into the Random Number Generator. The Random Number Generator will provide a list of names in sequence order through a random picking process to CMP. Customers will be contacted in the sequence provided by the Random Number Generator. When the customer is contacted a list of 1911 grades and pricing options that are available will be offered for selection of one. As CMP proceeds down the sequenced list less grade and pricing options will be available. Again, this done completely random. Mark Johnson Chief Operating Officer Civilian Marksmanship Program www.thecmp.org

 

[Thor]

To all CMP constituents:

The CMP Board of Directors has discussed at length how the sales of 1911s would be handled, if the CMP were to ever receive them from the United States Army.

Some preliminary decisions:

1. Decisions concerning the grade and pricing of the 1911s will not be made until inspection has occurred of a substantial quantity which will take an estimated 150 days post receipt.
2. All laws pertaining to the sale of 1911s by CMP will be strictly obeyed.
3. Potential purchasers will have to provide to CMP a new set of documents exhibiting: 1) proof of U.S. Citizenship, 2) proof of membership in a CMP affiliated club, 3) proof of participation in a marksmanship activity, 4) a new form 2A with notary, 5) successful completion of a NICS background check, 6) a signed copy of the 01 Federal Firearms License in which the 1911 will be transferred to.
4. The CMP customer will be required to complete a form 4473 in person and successfully complete another NICS check by the recipient FFL holder before the pistol can be transferred.
5. Qualified CMP customer will only be allowed to purchase one 1911 per calendar year.
6. No 1911s available in the CMP stores, or on line, only mail order sales.
7. CMP will set the date in which it will accept orders for the 1911s. The date will be posted to the world.
8. Orders will only be accepted via mail order delivery.
9. Orders will only be accepted post marked on the date or after, no early orders.
10. Once CMP receives 10,000 orders, customer names will be loaded into the Random Number Generator.
11. The Random Number Generator will provide a list of names in sequence order through a random picking process to CMP.
12. Customers will be contacted in the sequence provided by the Random Number Generator.
13. When the customer is contacted a list of 1911 grades and pricing options that are available will be offered for selection of one.
14. As CMP proceeds down the sequenced list less grade and pricing options will be available. Again, this done completely random.

Mark Johnson
Chief Operating Officer
Civilian Marksmanship Program

 

[ljk]

not @ $1,000 which they got for free from Uncle Sam.

 

[88E30M50]

Wow, there are a lot of hoops to jump through. Two NCIS checks? Mail order only, no online order? As much as I love my 1911s and would welcome the chance to add a third USGI 1911 to the family, I don't know if I'm interested in crawling through a spanking line to get it.

 

[Thor]

I'm thinking this is going to slow down the 'unprecedented demand' they were seeing. Holy hand grenade batman, that process is taking a lot of oomph out the want.

 

[spankys56]

If you have been involved with cmp sales the only extra requirement is a signed copy of your ffl's license and fresh forms. The cmp has always had strict requirements to purchase rifles, if it was easy everybody would have bought everything up years ago. Regardless, it will be a stroke of luck even to be selected to get one with all the attention on this. Been a cmp member for years and I don't think I am even going to bother with it, did the carbine release and came up empty.

 

[Brad69]

Wow
All That for a junk mixmaster 1911 most with no name slides that have been rebuilt multiple times?
I do like the one per year limit I personally know someone who orders many CMP firearms then resells them.

 

[223 Gunner]

I certainly can appreciate the history of a G.I. 1911, but if I were going to drop that kind of money on a 1911 it will be a current one with all the upgrades.
Like better sights, extended beaver tail, extended slide stop and thumb safety.

And the $800 dollar price point actually isn't too bad at all considering every time I see a G.I. 1911 listed somewhere they seem to be North of $1600

 

[Clay]

not @ $1,000 which they got for free from Uncle Sam.

1. Decisions concerning the grade and pricing of the 1911s will not be made until inspection has occurred of a substantial quantity which will take an estimated 150 days post receipt.

They've made no decisions on pricing......

 

[TheJoker]

If you have been involved with cmp sales the only extra requirement is a signed copy of your ffl's license and fresh forms. The cmp has always had strict requirements to purchase rifles, if it was easy everybody would have bought everything up years ago. Regardless, it will be a stroke of luck even to be selected to get one with all the attention on this. Been a cmp member for years and I don't think I am even going to bother with it, did the carbine release and came up empty.

This ^^^

None the less, I'll have my paperwork in order and make a decision on whether or not to pull the trigger when/if the offer comes. I would imagine that these pistols will be much like the M1s and will run the gamut of condition from rack to collector grade and will be priced according to the market.

Hopefully, folks will let the CMP alone(...though, I highly doubt it). Every time news on the 1911s is printed, the good folks in Anniston have to stop what their doing and answer a storm of calls and emails. It delays rifles going out the door.

 

[Thor]

A clarification CMP 1911 Information To all CMP constituents: The CMP Board of Directors has discussed at length how the sales of 1911s would be handled, if the CMP were to ever receive them from the United States Army. Some preliminary decisions further clarified: Decisions concerning the grade and pricing of the 1911s will not be made until inspection has occurred of a substantial quantity which will take an estimated 150 days post receipt. All laws pertaining to the sale of 1911s by CMP will be strictly obeyed. Potential purchasers will have to provide to CMP a new set of documents exhibiting: 1) proof of U.S. Citizenship, 2) proof of membership in a CMP affiliated club, 3) proof of participation in a marksmanship activity, 4) a new form 2A with notary, 5) a signed copy of the 01 Federal Firearms License in which the 1911 will be transferred to. A NICS background check will be performed by CMP on the customer to assure the customer is eligible to purchase prior to shipment to the FFL licensed dealer. The customer must receive a "proceed" from NICS prior to shipment of the pistol to the FFL licensed dealer. The CMP customer will be required to complete a form 4473 in person at the FFL dealers place of business, successfully passing a NICS check performed by the FFL holder, before the pistol can be transferred. This is a second NICS check performed on the customer. Qualified CMP customer will only be allowed to purchase one 1911 per calendar year. No 1911s available in the CMP stores, or on line, only mail order sales. CMP will set the date in which it will accept orders for the 1911s. The date will be posted to the world. Orders will only be accepted via mail order delivery. Orders will only be accepted post marked on the date or after, no early orders. Once CMP receives 10,000 orders, customer names will be loaded into the Random Number Generator. The Random Number Generator will provide a list of names in sequence order through a random picking process to CMP. Customers will be contacted in the sequence provided by the Random Number Generator. When the customer is contacted a list of 1911 grades and pricing options that are available will be offered for selection of one. As CMP proceeds down the sequenced list less grade and pricing options will be available. Again, this done completely random. Note: 1911 type pistols purchased from CMP cannot be transferred to 03 FFL (curio and relic) license. BATF and the United States Army prefer the second background check be performed by a "store front" FFL dealer. Each customer purchasing a 1911 type pistol from CMP will be subjected to two NICS background checks, one performed by CMP and the other performed by the FFL dealer the pistol is being shipped to. Mark Johnson Chief Operating Officer Civilian Marksmanship Program www.thecmp.org

 

[Robert Richardson]

I will just be happy with my like new Remington Rand that's been sitting in my safe in the cardboard box it was shipped in.

 

[ljk]

An Update on CMP 1911 Prices and Grades from CMP Chief Operating Officer Mark Johnson - AllOutdoor.com

"The pricing is expected to start at about $1,000 per pistol with the better grades “priced accordingly.”

 

[Tomc1947]

Like the old saying goes: "I'm from the Government and am here to help"

 

[Bapak2ja]

I'd love to have one, but there's no way in Hades that I'm paying that much for a shooter.

I agree. I want one, but I will not pay that price. I have a Remington 1911 R1, which is basically a GI model with a couple upgrades. I can shoot it all I want without fear of ruining its value. It would be nice to have a WW2 model, but I cannot justify that price, nor am I willing to jump through that many hoops.

Getting a membership in a CMP club is challenging, too. I found one locally that will allow new members to join, but it takes a lot of work and cash. Even Appleseed requires close to $100 to attend a training sessions and qualify on the line.

I think I will just sit this one out and pick up one from someone who decides they want to cash out for retirement or to save their marriage (since momma has a different idea of what is worth $1K).

 

[JTScribe]

Oof. Seems high.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

That's a lot of money. I'm probably not going to get in line to buy one but on the other hand, they'll probably never be any cheaper. Just depends on how badly I'll want to add to my collection.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Already an ongoing thread here, fellas.

https://www.indianagunowners.com/forums/handguns/439738-cmp-1911-update-2.html#post7328357