CNN: Children should get vaccinated. Period.

[GodFearinGunTotin]

There's so much hypocrisy with it, too.

There are all sorts of ways that parents increase their childrens odds of contracting and spreading diseases that could kill immunocompromised people.

- Feed them junk food
- Fail to feed them the proper nutrients
- Send them to daycare
- Don't teach them basic hygiene
- Allow them in public when they are clearly sick

Measles is barely more dangerous than the common flu, which is widely spread by all of these behaviors. I don't see a bunch of busybodies wringing their hands and wetting their panties over these.

People should stay home when they are sick?

But I was lambasted pretty well for making that assertion in a thread a few months ago. I couldn't even get people to admit they had a duty to their fellow man to not go out in public if they were ill.

 

[steveh_131]

People should stay home when they are sick?

But I was lambasted pretty well for making that assertion in a thread a few months ago. I couldn't even get people to admit they had a duty to their fellow man to not go out in public if they were ill.

We do our very best to keep our kids isolated when they are ill. It's impossible to do this to perfection, but we certainly try.

I don't know about 'duty' but I do think it is the right thing to do. And it ought to remain an ethical issue, not a legal one.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

We do our very best to keep our kids isolated when they are ill. It's impossible to do this to perfection, but we certainly try.

I don't know about 'duty' but I do think it is the right thing to do. And it ought to remain an ethical issue, not a legal one.

I couldn't even get anybody to say it was the right thing to do.

 

[steveh_131]

I couldn't even get anybody to say it was the right thing to do.

Hmm. Maybe I'm wrong here, I don't know. Sometime's its really unavoidable, but we try. At least during the worst, most contagious parts of the infection.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Hmm. Maybe I'm wrong here, I don't know. Sometime's its really unavoidable, but we try. At least during the worst, most contagious parts of the infection.

I know. It seems to me to be common decency to try to stay away from public and passing "it" along.

 

[jamil]

People should stay home when they are sick?

But I was lambasted pretty well for making that assertion in a thread a few months ago. I couldn't even get people to admit they had a duty to their fellow man to not go out in public if they were ill.

I couldn't even get anybody to say it was the right thing to do.

I missed that thread. It is the right thing to do.

 

[88GT]

I couldn't even get anybody to say it was the right thing to do.

That's because it's not. It's not a universal truth. It's an opinion.

 

[steveh_131]

That's because it's not. It's not a universal truth. It's an opinion.

I think that's all anybody here is saying.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

That's because it's not. It's not a universal truth. It's an opinion.

From what I've learned in my time on INGO is there are no universal truths. Your universal truth, or heck--just your sense of common decency is you forcing your opinion on me (and vice versa).

 

[88GT]

From what I've learned in my time on INGO is there are no universal truths. Your universal truth, or heck--just your sense of common decency is you forcing your opinion on me (and vice versa).

That's what the disingenuous control freaks would like you to believe.

Whether or not there's an absolute truth is somewhat moot to the discussion. What's relevant is that no one should be able to use the power and authority of government to coerce others to live according to that truth (or any other, for that matter).

 

[jamil]

It kinda goes without saying. "It's the right thing to do." is subjective. But that doesn't mean we can't say it and try to convince others of its "rightness".

 

[steveh_131]

It kinda goes without saying. "It's the right thing to do." is subjective.

unless we say it about stabbing our children with needles. then it's 'science'.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

That's what the disingenuous control freaks would like you to believe.

Whether or not there's an absolute truth is somewhat moot to the discussion. What's relevant is that no one should be able to use the power and authority of government to coerce others to live according to that truth (or any other, for that matter).

I agree with this. This is why I keep harping on the use of the court system as a hammer to beat everybody into the same mold.

 

[Double T]

Some of your responses are pretty funny. People don't read the "If you have any flu like symptoms, stay the **** out" signs that we have posted. Every year, we have an outbreak of influenza. Every year, we have a few people die related to influenza like illness. That's just the elderly.

Yeah, you may be fine, and be able to fight **** off. IF you get sick, stay home and don't pass it on. The vaccinations against influenza are helpful, but not the only thing that helps. If people would not be fired for staying home when they were sick, this wouldn't be an issue. As it is, people HAVE to work sick, and it's pretty sad.

I'm not going to go through herd immunity, and microbio cell marker changes from host to host. A vaccine can be rendered irrelevant after a few host jumps. Markers change. This is why we have no vaccine to HIV, it's marker change from host to host. Other "viruses" aren't quite that efficient, but markers do change a bit...

 

[wabashman]

If people would not be fired for staying home when they were sick, this wouldn't be an issue. As it is, people HAVE to work sick, and it's pretty sad.

It would be nice if you could stay home from work when you are legitimately sick, but we all know this would be taken advantage of way to often.

 

[findingZzero]

The night is dark and full of terror.

 

[HoughMade]

Vaccines are a bunch of crap. They actually suppress your immune system from functioning as it should. The reason certain diseases have been eradicated is do to the fact that running water in homes along with better sanitation. Not to mention the vaccines they push and in some instances force upon you are loaded with mercury. This has been directly related to autism and a lot of other condititons. Take them at your own risk! I will not

You forgot the pur.. ....wait a minute....you're serious.

 

[BigBoxaJunk]

That's what the disingenuous control freaks would like you to believe.

Whether or not there's an absolute truth is somewhat moot to the discussion. What's relevant is that no one should be able to use the power and authority of government to coerce others to live according to that truth (or any other, for that matter).

But if we made a law and it saved one life, wouldn't it be worth it?

 

[IndyDave1776]

But if we made a law and it saved one life, wouldn't it be worth it?

Hell, if it only saved a quarter of a life it would be worth acceptance of .gov control of our personal lives and decisions.

 

[Lex Concord]

Statistically they are pretty safe. I will be vaccinating my children. I get my flu shot because I work in healthcare (regularly in contact with potentially sick people) plus my employer gives it to me for free.

Is your employer one who mandates flu vaccine as a condition of employment?