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    I last went there after they updated the model train exhibit, because I donated money for that.
    But, I haven't seen the new sub exhibit. For some reason though, I really want to.
    I highly recomend it. They built a building around it and they did have veterans that actualy helped capture it working there as volunteers. They still have other veterans working there too giving info about the capture. A very very awesome experience. Deffinately pay and go on the tour inside the sub too
     

    actaeon277

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    I highly recomend it. They built a building around it and they did have veterans that actualy helped capture it working there as volunteers. They still have other veterans working there too giving info about the capture. A very very awesome experience. Deffinately pay and go on the tour inside the sub too

    I don't know TT.
    Subs scare me.




    :)
     

    actaeon277

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    I imagine the one you were in would feel like an aircraft carrier in comparison.

    Yes.
    But I've seen more modern subs, and they make mine seem tiny.
    Of course, my sub started life as a boomer, one of the original "41 for freedom".
    Ohio classes were the new kids on the block of the boomers while I was in. And they dwarfed mine.
    Part of that was more missile tubes in Sherwood Forrest.
    But part was cause they designed in more living space.
    Partially for habitability (spelling?), partially for the S6G reactor needing more space than my broken down old S5W reactor.

    Look at fighter planes. New ones dwarf WWII ones.
     

    actaeon277

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    I imagine the one you were in would feel like an aircraft carrier in comparison.

    I don't know if I'd have been a submariner then.
    Maybe, cause of what we have now, I'd say no. Maybe if I had nothing to compare it, I'd say yes.
    But it's hard to imagine the brass balls they must have needed.
    Of you "visited" the sub on a tour, you might have the smallest inkling.
    Watching "Das Boot" might give you a little more.

    But I know what my sub was like, wallowing around on the diesel, or at snorkel depth.
    Sucking in diesel thru the main induction. Trying to eat a sandwich with a blue/black haze on the mess decks. Everything you eat has a diesel taste.
    Everything on a sub STINKS. With the diesel, it was WORSE.
    Then, I only have the smallest INKLING of what it was like, when they almost lived on the surface, diesel the entire time on the surface.
    Then, under water, surviving on compressed air.
    I got to live with oxygen made from water, stored pure in bottles and bled. Scrubbers and Burners taking care of CO and CO2. Even if we were doing "hush-hush/wink-wink" stuff, we could live off the O2 bleed, and run the Scrubbers and Burners intermediately.
    They had a chemical powder for absorbing CO2. But it is dangerous near water, and can saturate fast.
    Bled air doesn't last as long as bled O2.
    And battery power gets sucked down fast trying to move a sub.

    As I said, I can barely imagine, I just have an inkling.
    And I can barely figure out words to describe diesel impregnated air, with O2 and CO2 bouncing all over, and sweaty sailors stuck inside a steel tube.
     

    actaeon277

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    Then again.
    I am pretty hard headed.
    I became a submariner because it was HARD.
    And I heard the nukes were the "cream of the crop" type of thing. Where nukes in training would fail, many commit suicide. So, I had to test my metal by being a nuke on a sub.
    Then, asking for duty stations, it was "suggested" I take the easy life on an Ohio class, doing well at the Ohio prototype. But I had no use. FAST ATTACK TOUGH, or Spec Ops outta Mare Island were my reply.
    So they put me on more of what I call Gray Ops. Sorta Black Ops Lite. :)

    So, they were (for me) tests.
    And several times, those tests almost broke me.

    So, maybe in WWII I might have been a submariner, maybe.
     

    daddyusmaximus

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    I would normally agree, but I won’t deny my kids the learning experiences they can get from the museums and aquarium in Chicago. They are also only about 40 minutes away from where I live ( unless we take the South Shore, which makes it longer).

    Mine are already in college. (where they teach the young to hate America) I'm hoping they learned enough at home not to fall for this, but sadly I was gone playing Army for much of their upbringing on one deployment or another. I'm 50/50 with one conservative, and one liberal at two different schools...
     

    actaeon277

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    I just read "The Death of the Thresher"...I can't imagine why...:D

    You should see the dreams you get, when the O2 and CO2 levels go wonky from old instrumentation.
    I married Meg Ryan on the Space Shuttle launch pad, under a shuttle, then was chased around a broken dark sub by a crewman wanting to kill.

    Then, there's the dreams in port, when all the scary stuff that happened, but you were too cool (or was it too busy) to show fear while at sea, decides to come to the surface and scare the ever loving **** out of ya.
     

    Ingomike

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    Rahm Emanual proclaimed that he was putting 1000 extra police officers on the streets to keep order for Memorial Day Weekend, maybe he should have added another 3000. Second City Cop As of Monday all 5 of the latest blog posts are shocking to this guy who reads the blog daily. I would think these 5 incidents would be combined to make headlines across the country but the media will be more interested in anything but this.

    I read through that link. WOW! I had heard it was bad but that is a war zone.

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    Brad69

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    The “packs” of kids take trains into the downtown areas inside the “loop” and attack in large numbers!
    Why would a person even want to risk what may be a deadly encounter?

    Imagine Police forcibly corralling youths onto trains and sending them south?
    No charges or arrests just physically pushing them onto trains and closing the doors the the trains heading south once let off the trains the youth head east and attempt more crime.

    The elite in Chicago have turned a blind eye toward the “thunderdome” that the city has become because it didn’t directly effect the elite class saftey. This summer looks to change this the story can only covered up to a point once this hits the national level the last gasps of tourism will leave the failing socialist city state.
     

    AtTheMurph

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    Chiraq will resemble Detroilet in a decade or less. If there was a way to get to Wisconsin to smell the dairy air without going through that city, even on the Interstate, or going way out of my way, I think I'd visit up there more often.

    Depending on Chiraq traffic it can be faster to take I74 to I39 to I43 to get from IND to MKE. Must more enjoyable drive, far less traffic and once into WI you drive through the southern unit of the Kettle Morain.
     
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