Damaged Omega from a range....

[VUPDblue]

Wow. They should take care of it 100%. Is the reason the range isn't being formally named that they are an INGO advertiser?

Why on on earth would advertiser status make any difference whatsoever?

 

[lonehoosier]

Is that why whenever I look at this thread their ad banner is at the top?

Damn you!! You made me look and there's no banner.

 

[OneBadV8]

Wow. They should take care of it 100%. Is the reason the range isn't being formally named that they are an INGO advertiser?

Nope, no names until action or inaction is taken. Based on legal advice. Names are just guesses at this point. The discussion I was going for is who you thought was responsible and if you think it's too much to expect the range to cover the replacement costs. SilencerCo is sending a new can, but there are still costs associated such as shipping, tax stamp, transfer, and a new cover that was never recovered by the range.

 

[DanVoils]

Nope, no names until action or inaction is taken. Based on legal advice. Names are just guesses at this point. The discussion I was going for is who you thought was responsible and if you think it's too much to expect the range to cover the replacement costs. SilencerCo is sending a new can, but there are still costs associated such as shipping, tax stamp, transfer, and a new cover that was never recovered by the range.

Makes sense. How could they not recover the cover? Wouldn't it just be back in the baffle area? I think they just didn't look for it.

 

[Trigger Time]

Range probably had him sign one of those "we aren't responsible for ****, even if it's our fault liability waiver things" so he will probably lose regardless. Gun owners just need to boycott that place once we find out point blank which one it is

 

[DanVoils]

Is that why whenever I look at this thread their ad banner is at the top?

No banners for me. Ad-Blocker for the win!

 

[Trigger Time]

Makes sense. How could they not recover the cover? Wouldn't it just be back in the baffle area? I think they just didn't look for it.

one of their employees probably stuck it in their pocket

 

[jagee]

I have exactly zero experience with purchase/transfer/repair/etc. of an NFA item, so I guess I am looking at this from an outsider perspective.

Range should have called a cease fire. They did not. They are responsible for whatever happened to that can as a result of not calling a cease fire. They should cover associated costs to replace/repair damaged can.

ETA:
Hypothetically: My negligence caused me to knock my handgun off of the platform and fall downrange by a couple feet. Would the range not call a cease fire to retrieve my handgun that may or may not be loaded and pointed back toward the firing line?

 

[DanVoils]

one of their employees probably stuck it in their pocket

True! Last time I was in there was last winter when I had to fully check out a couple of new builds and it was too cold outside. I think there was only one familiar face and that was the young blond woman doing the check in. It was a great place when they first opened but they really have gone downhill. The RSO's used to be in the range area all the time but the last time I was there he spent all of his time futzing around behind the counter. Seemed there wasn't anyone over the age of 25 working there.

 

[T.Lex]

Range probably had him sign one of those "we aren't responsible for ****, even if it's our fault liability waiver things" so he will probably lose regardless. Gun owners just need to boycott that place once we find out point blank which one it is

You realize, at this point, it doesn't look like it was PB, right?

 

[printcraft]

The way I see it, the range is liable for any damage that occurred AFTER it was launched downrange. Their failure to retrieve it, knowing the value of the item, weighed against the extreme risk of additional damage caused by the dangerous environment, was negligent.

This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Same as leaving your car at the dealer for work and finding out they let people come in and hit it with a hammer.

 

[Trigger Time]

You realize, at this point, it doesn't look like it was PB, right?

i don't care. Point blank still sucks point blnk

 

[Hkindiana]

This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Same as leaving your car at the dealer for work and finding out they let people come in and hit it with a hammer.

yeah, but IF your car was ALREADY totalled, what actual harm to your car did the hammer hit cause?

 

[OneBadV8]

yeah, but IF your car was ALREADY totalled, what actual harm to your car did the hammer hit cause?

But what if it wasn't at all really and just maybe had a headlight out.

There were no baffle strikes. The internals were fine, somehow, other than the baffles that were dented from the bullet impacts.

 

[Hkindiana]

But what if it wasn't at all really and just maybe had a headlight out.

That is a totally different story. And, now that the OP says there ARE NO BAFFLE STRIKES, then I think the range SHOULD be liable for all associted replacement costs.

 

[printcraft]

yeah, but IF your car was ALREADY totalled, what actual harm to your car did the hammer hit cause?

Doesn't matter. If you leave an item in the care of another they are wholly responsible.
Beyond that they REQUIRED that he leave it, they didn't give him a choice.
At that point they accepted all responsibility for the item. Legally and otherwise.

 

[Rookie]

Even if there were baffle strikes, which there aren't, it doesn't change the fact that there's huge dents on the outside of the can due to their negligence.

Baffle strikes doesn't mean totaled. Big ass dents in the can do.

 

[T.Lex]

Doesn't matter. If you leave an item in the care of another they are wholly responsible.
Beyond that they REQUIRED that he leave it, they didn't give him a choice.
At that point they accepted all responsibility for the item. Legally and otherwise.

Bailment.

Dang its been a long time since I've seen an issue with that in the real world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bailment

 

[Rookie]

Bailment.

Dang its been a long time since I've seen an issue with that in the real world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bailment

What's Indiana law in relation to this?

 

[Hkindiana]

Even if there were baffle strikes, which there aren't, it doesn't change the fact that there's huge dents on the outside of the can due to their negligence.

True, but my point is thst IF there were baffle strikes it would have ALREADY been ruined (like a totalled car) and any additional damage would not CHANGE THE FACT that it was already RUINED. However, since there are no baffle strikes, THEN the can WAS ruined by the negligence of the range.