DNR Sex Sting Outside of Fort Wayne

[HoughMade]

So what other constitutionally protected activities are banned on public property now?

 

[Expat]

So what other constitutionally protected activities are banned on public property now?

Where is the ACLU when we need them? They should be promoting acceptance of these hijinks.

 

[HoughMade]

How do you come up with a 'battery' charge for this? These 'undercover' guys go hang out with a bunch of guys who are known to do this in a place where they're known to do it [consensually], then press charges for battery?

My guess is that the officer who got stroked never explicitly gave consent....and that would be a battery.

 

[Expat]

My guess is that the officer who got stroked never explicitly gave consent....and that would be a battery.

So you are saying that we need an "implied consent" statute in cases like this. I like where you are going with that.

 

[steveh_131]

My guess is that the officer who got stroked never explicitly gave consent....and that would be a battery.

Yes, this was clarified for me earlier.

This is gross.

 

[HoughMade]

So you are saying that we need an "implied consent" statute in cases like this. I like where you are going with that.

Well I say that when you know what guys are doing when they gather there (which clearly they did), and then you follow a guy "deeper" into the woods...there's no "how could he possibly think I would be up (so to speak) for that?"

 

[chipbennett]

Well I say that when you know what guys are doing when they gather there (which clearly they did), and then you follow a guy "deeper" into the woods...there's no "how could he possibly think I would be up (so to speak) for that?"

Within the context of the situation (and setting aside personal feelings about impropriety or gross-ness), how is this any different from someone on a date, getting rejected for a goodnight kiss, or trying to cop a feel during a kiss, etc.? It's really not a far stretch to go from these dudes "deeper" in the woods, to a co-ed with buyer's remorse after a night of hooking up, who then cries rape.

Is this really the best way to use law enforcement? If they're doing it out in the open where others can see, or they're enticing young boys, or something like that? Sure. But this? They're grown, consenting adults.

 

[HoughMade]

Within the context of the situation (and setting aside personal feelings about impropriety or gross-ness), how is this any different from someone on a date, getting rejected for a goodnight kiss, or trying to cop a feel during a kiss, etc.? It's really not a far stretch to go from these dudes "deeper" in the woods, to a co-ed with buyer's remorse after a night of hooking up, who then cries rape.

While I'm being contrarian for the comedic value, I agree with you on this.

Is this really the best way to use law enforcement? If they're doing it out in the open where others can see, or they're enticing young boys, or something like that? Sure. But this? They're grown, consenting adults.

If this activity is impeding the use of the area for its intended purpose, I don't have an issue with moving the guys on...but inevitably to another location. Isn't this what Craigslist is for?

 

[Expat]

Is this really the best way to use law enforcement? If they're doing it out in the open where others can see, or they're enticing young boys, or something like that? Sure. But this? They're grown, consenting adults.

Young boys... pfft.

 

[steveh_131]

Within the context of the situation (and setting aside personal feelings about impropriety or gross-ness), how is this any different from someone on a date, getting rejected for a goodnight kiss, or trying to cop a feel during a kiss, etc.? It's really not a far stretch to go from these dudes "deeper" in the woods, to a co-ed with buyer's remorse after a night of hooking up, who then cries rape.

Is this really the best way to use law enforcement? If they're doing it out in the open where others can see, or they're enticing young boys, or something like that? Sure. But this? They're grown, consenting adults.

All good points.

 

[dusty88]

Within the context of the situation (and setting aside personal feelings about impropriety or gross-ness), how is this any different from someone on a date, getting rejected for a goodnight kiss, or trying to cop a feel during a kiss, etc.? It's really not a far stretch to go from these dudes "deeper" in the woods, to a co-ed with buyer's remorse after a night of hooking up, who then cries rape.

Is this really the best way to use law enforcement? If they're doing it out in the open where others can see, or they're enticing young boys, or something like that? Sure. But this? They're grown, consenting adults.

I think the problem is that on public park, DNR property etc, basically anywhere is "out in the open".
It's also obviously inappropriate use of the restroom. Public facilities do have defined uses. If you wanted to hold your kids' birthday party in the public restroom (all grossness and contaminated cake aside), you are occupying that restroom and deterring its normal use.

Guys doing deeds in the woods that our society considers "private" serves to chase other people off the public property.

I don't give a darn what they do but they should rent a property for matters considered private.

 

[steveh_131]

I don't give a darn what they do but they should rent a property for matters considered private.

Yeah, this is why it seems like the charges make sense, excluding battery.

 

[Hawkeye]

I'll tell you, a guy would be lucky to get out of it with only a cracked skull if he reached out and tried to touch my junk. If a snake snuck through a glory hole next to me, a bic lighter might do the trick, for that scenario.
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I don't know why, but the image of a "snake" through a "glory hole" with a hat pin stuck through it kind of comes to mind! OUCH, and he wouldn't be able to get out of there!

 

[OutdoorDad]

Guys doing deeds in the woods that our society considers "private" serves to chase other people off the public property.

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forget the morality for a moment. You're putting at risk every joke that has "How far is the Olde Log Inn?" as part of the setup.

A generation of young folks who haven't heard those jokes isn't a happy future.

Think of the children.

 

[patience0830]

I don't know why, but the image of a "snake" through a "glory hole" with a hat pin stuck through it kind of comes to mind! OUCH, and he wouldn't be able to get out of there!

I know of a location where a tongue got stuck through one of those holes and the owner now speaks with forked tongue. . .

Thanks to a real sharp pen knife.

They call him snake now.

 

[Leadeye]

Aintry? This here public access sight don't go to Aintry.

 

[speedracer302]

Within the context of the situation (and setting aside personal feelings about impropriety or gross-ness), how is this any different from someone on a date, getting rejected for a goodnight kiss, or trying to cop a feel during a kiss, etc.? It's really not a far stretch to go from these dudes "deeper" in the woods, to a co-ed with buyer's remorse after a night of hooking up, who then cries rape.

Is this really the best way to use law enforcement? If they're doing it out in the open where others can see, or they're enticing young boys, or something like that? Sure. But this? They're grown, consenting adults.

Serious? It sounds like these guys were not too far into the woods. I take my kids for hikes all the time. It would be the worst to stumble onto 2 dudes getting it on..... It seems like good use of law enforcement too me. Doesnt seem like it was much of an effort to net the group.

 

[Fargo]

There are a number of DNR fishing areas I would otherwise take my kids fishing at but don't want to have to explain what that man is doing to that other man. It royally pisses me off that taxpayer funded property is overrun with public sex acts of a criminal nature.