Do you believe in other life in the Universe?

[BigBoxaJunk]

we won't discover alien life, it will discover us.

And, we'll know that they really are super-inteligent, when they refuse to show us how to get to their planet.

I see them giving us a fake stellar address if we press it.

 

[PaulF]

Test tube?!

That sounds like a very naturalist/deist view. Biblical theology would lead us to believe we are more important to the creator than the product of one of many laboratory tests. Would a scientist send his own son to die to lab sample in test tube #12F alive?

Well, that's sort of a sticking point for many of us non-believers: If one's "spiritual" life is eternal, what is the "sacrifice" in death? Eternal (spiritual) life turns death into just another signpost on the road of life. Much like kidney stones or childbirth, whatever trauma is experienced will ultimately become fleeting and temporary.

Why shouldn't God send his son to Earth to die...over and over again, if necessary? Corporeal death would be absolutely meaningless to an eternal spiritual creature.

 

[PaulKersey]

As has already been stated, I don't think you can be dogmatic about it, but I certainly lean toward the belief that we are alone. I read an account once of a man who investigated approximately 1,000 accounts of supposed alien encounters of the 3rd and 4th kind. If memory serves, almost every one of these people claiming close contact or abduction by aliens had been involved in occultic activity prior to the event (or someone close to them was dabbling in the occult). I recognize I am likely in the vast minority, but I am convinced that people really are seeing "something" in the skies, but they are not spacemen. I believe that they are demonic manifestations mimicking the socially accepted and widely recognized UFO phenomenon. It seems to me that the UFO idea is yet another lane on the "broad road" Christ referred to in Scripture (Matt. 7:13), along with so many others.

 

[ChristianPatriot]

Well, that's sort of a sticking point for many of us non-believers: If one's "spiritual" life is eternal, what is the "sacrifice" in death? Eternal (spiritual) life turns death into just another signpost on the road of life. Much like kidney stones or childbirth, whatever trauma is experienced will ultimately become fleeting and temporary.

Why shouldn't God send his son to Earth to die...over and over again, if necessary? Corporeal death would be absolutely meaningless to an eternal spiritual creature.

I'm gonna move this over to the "Christianity" thread if that's cool with you

 

[PaulF]

I'm gonna move this over to the "Christianity" thread if that's cool with you

Yeah, good call.

I do think that life exists in the broader universe, even intelligent life. I don't think we'll ever meet any of them.

 

[sljccj]

Yes. God. Jesus. Angels.

 

[churchmouse]

It was inevitable that this thread would get into a religious debate.
The questioned posed by the OP has religious ramifications and would be a sticking point for those among us that are believers. Those of deep faith.

In that lets not quibble.

 

[Spear Dane]

It would be an utter waste of real estate if we were all there was. This is the Hubble Xtreme Deep Field image. Everything you see here is a galaxy, about 10,000 of them, 200 BILLION stars each on average. And this is a very tiny sliver of sky, equivalent to looking through a straw held at arms length. As of last fall the Hubble sky surveys indicate two TRILLION galaxies in the visible universe. There can't not be other life out there. Mathematically impossible.

 

[SwikLS]

proof is all that matters and so far there is no proof.

...with evidence supporting the assertion that it isn't.

you just proved my point

Is the speed of light consistent throughout the Universe or do we just believe it to be so based on faith?????

Can it be proven? If so, then yes. If not, then no.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Two types of people... and luckily there's a far more appropriate thread for the discussion of Religion vs Atheism!

https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...-discussion-general-religious-discussion.html
or
https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...gious-discussion-all-things-christianity.html

This one's about gray people wanting to or not wanting to stick probes in our orifi

And the reptilians. Don't forget the reptilians.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Einsteins theory of special relativity covers the speed of light in a vacuum (space is a vacuum) if you want to further educate yourself

What about the effect of extreme gravity on light as in black holes?

 

[Woobie]

I won't pretend to know all of God's design. I do think God put us in charge of it all, though. And if we find some protozoan life form a few trillion mikes from here, we should take care not to mess it up like we have some of the life here.

 

[Jludo]

I won't pretend to know all of God's design. I do think God put us in charge of it all, though. And if we find some protozoan life form a few trillion mikes from here, we should take care not to mess it up like we have some of the life here.

The irony of course being that thousands of light years from here a far more advanced civilization is looking at us telling themselves the exact same thing...

 

[bmbutch]

I've always wondered why God created all the other galaxies, etc., still wondering....

 

[Jludo]

https://answersingenesis.org/media/audio/answers-with-ken-ham/volume-123/do-aliens-exist/

Each year, millions of dollars are spent on the search for alien life. And so far they haven’t found anything. But evolutionists like Bill Nye are convinced it will turn up eventually. Why? Because if life evolved here, it has to have evolved elsewhere.

But starting with God’s Word, we don’t expect intelligent alien life to exist. Here is one problem with the idea: all of creation is cursed because of sin. That includes supposed alien life. Jesus came as a man to save mankind from sin, but aliens are not descendants of Adam. A just God wouldn’t create intelligent beings that would suffer from man’s sin but have no hope of salvation.

No, there are no aliens!

I'm glad that's not the philosophy most take. If alien life were discovered then I take it answers in genesis would concede that Gods word is incorrect?

 

[Woobie]

The irony of course being that thousands of light years from here a far more advanced civilization is looking at us telling themselves the exact same thing...

Why must this talk of other life forms always assume that they are more advanced? Perhaps the most advanced life forms on this other planet, if these unobserved life forms exist, are lizards or some heretofore un-named kingdom of creature.

 

[churchmouse]

I won't pretend to know all of God's design. I do think God put us in charge of it all, though. And if we find some protozoan life form a few trillion mikes from here, we should take care not to mess it up like we have some of the life here.

There in lies the problem

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Why must this talk of other life forms always assume that they are more advanced? Perhaps the most advanced life forms on this other planet, if these unobserved life forms exist, are lizards or some heretofore un-named kingdom of creature.

Or they've come, lived, advanced beyond our wildest dreams, and went extinct... many times over.

Those two videos I posted earlier touch on this. Many generations and eons and lives may have already been lived long before we were ever a blip on the radar.

Because when you look at the timeline of the age of the universe... humanity isn't even a sliver on it.

To think there has never been other life is, as I said before, silly.

 

[Woobie]

Or they've come, lived, advanced beyond our wildest dreams, and went extinct... many times over.

Those two videos I posted earlier touch on this. Many generations and eons and lives may have already been lived long before we were ever a blip on the radar.

I watched the first one. The whole thing seemed pretty disjointed. But that may have been a problem with the video, and not the theory.

 

[rlfrye]

I have told the wife that if humans are the most advanced species, I feel really sorry for the rest of them. I personally feel the universe is too vast to not have life somewhere else. I am also too much of a simpleton to know where or what that would be. Just like the meth heads, as long as they stay out of my house, I dont much care about them.