Do you not travel in Illinois?

[CTC B4Z]

I think out of state or instate persons should start filing lawsuits to the State. If you are injured, robbed, killed, etc, you or your family should file a wrongful death suit because you are denied a right to protect yourself. . .

 

[SirRealism]

Interesting timing for this thread. I had a dream last night that I was driving through Chicago to visit a buddy in WI, and then realized that I was carrying my gun with me, and that I had been doing it for years without knowing I was a speeding ticket away from a felony. (The dream was like the one about forgetting to go to class for the entire year and then finding out the final is the next day. But the stakes were a little higher.)

So, yeah, I guess you could say that visiting IL is like a bad dream for me.

I avoid it when possible, and spend as little money as possible.

 

[downzero]

I think out of state or instate persons should start filing lawsuits to the State. If you are injured, robbed, killed, etc, you or your family should file a wrongful death suit because you are denied a right to protect yourself. . .

Wouldn't even survive a motion to dismiss, for a number of reasons.

In other words, that suit would be a complete waste of money.

If you want to change the law, the way to do it is by voting and getting legislators who will give you the laws you want. The courts will disappoint you almost every time.

 

[Ski]

The only time I travel to Illinois is when I'm on my way to the U.P. of Michigan. I store any gun I take unloaded and locked in their case and packed in a bag out of reach. The ammo is also packed out of reach. I usually stop once, north of Chicago, and a couple of times in Wisconsin. I will admit it is a relief to cross into Michigan on the way up and reentering into Indiana.

 

[cornfused]

NO Illinois for me thanks...

 

[braz007]

I refuse to travel Illinois. My wife and I will only vacation where we can carry. There are some really nice museums and beaches in MI . I feel the same way about CA, but I have to travel there for work .

 

[Serial Crusher]

I refuse to go to Illinois, and will not buy products made there. ESPECIALLY FIREARMS. There are quite a few companies in Illinois that make firearms that are illegal to possess in some or all of Illinois. I'm also very vocal about my views, and try to discourage everyone I know from spending money or time in Illinois, Cook county and Chicago. Most people don't need a lot of discouraging anyway.

I think a very good way to deal with the situation is by having personal communications with Firearms manufactures in states with absurd firearms laws. States like Illinois, Massachusetts, and California have quite a few firearms manufacturers in spite of their laws. These states aren't ashamed to make it about money, and we shouldn't be either. If we put pressure on these companies, they will begin to speak to the local legislature, and knowing how much of their paychecks comes from these industries, the legislature will listen. Money talks, capitalism works.

 

[Arm America]

Nope, a Felony is a Felony regardless of State it's issued in.
I will respect the Law's it's people have allowed.


When guns are outlawed, only outlaws have guns.
(Chicago shootings something like 50+ over a weekend last month)

I am involved with a small business with expenditures
of nearly one million per year.

On occasion, I may find myself traveling through the Socialist State but
will not contribute to it's Tax Base.

Not 1-dime will roll towards Illinois.

 

[Bucko]

I'm a huge Chicago bears fan. I've not been to Illinois in the last 15 years. If the gun laws changed, I'd buy season tickets to see the Chicago Bears. Instead I take my kids to other places where I can defend them if need be.

 

[Bill of Rights]

We're working diligently here to try to get a right to carry license law passed. In a meeting this week with a legislator that recently came to our side, the question was asked "How does the lack of a carry law affect tourism in our state?"

So, in a very unscientific survey, I'll ask you to pick the answer that most nearly reflects your reaction to the Land of Lincoln's gun laws.

Where I work, there are times that I must go into IL. I cannot carry on duty, so the law makes no difference on that point. However, whether it is in IL or not, once our transport is completed, my partner and I will often stop somewhere to get a cold drink. When we transport to IL, we wait until we are back in free America to do so.

I have to say that I have family in IL. If I ever want to visit them, I'll have to disarm at the state line. I haven't had the opportunity to do so yet, as the last visit I made was before I had my license and I didn't carry my gun driving over there.

My family and I stopped at Gander Mountain while in Springfield, just to kill time and to do some shopping. We waited at the gun case for almost a half an hour before an employee came up to us. We asked just to see a weapon as my wife was still shopping for what she wanted and the guy immediately asked for our FOID cards. I had no idea what that was (I've since educated myself to IL gun law) and he asked if we even lived in IL. No, we're visiting. "Sorry, I can't even open the gun case with you standing here, let alone let you hold a gun."

I feel sorry for the people of IL, my family included, who have to deal with such bass ackwards gun laws and ideas.

"Sorry, I can't even open the gun case with you standing here, let alone let you hold a gun."


As is often the case, the clerk was badly mistaken. As a non-resident, you are not required to have a FOID nor do you qualify. He could have sold you a long gun, and had you passed the NICS check, you could have taken it with you. Unlike IL residents who have to abide by a 24 hour waiting period.

AB

Correct. He could have sold you a long gun or ammo and for that matter, he could have sold you a handgun as well, had you had a IN FFL he could ship it to for you to pick up once you returned home.

Personally, I think he did you a favor. He kept you from spending money in the People's Republic of Ill-annoy.

Blessings,
Bill

 

[shibumiseeker]

I only travel through Illinois and I don't stop at all. I have not spent any money in Illinois in two decades since I've been old enough to carry, and I will organize my SAR events on either side of the border, but not in Illinois, so Illinois has probably lost out on several hundreds of $k of money I have influence on being spent over the last two decades entirely because of their firearms laws.

 

[riverman67]

I used to live so close to the border that I could have thrown a baseball into Illinois.
I avoided it like the plague back then and only went when I had to. I have friends and family buried in Illinois, so I will most likely have to go about 1.5 miles in once a year or so. I won't have to spend in money .
I have a good friend that just got back from Iraq that I really need to visit. He is located at Fort Leavenworth .I'm plotting my route around Illinois I don't care how long it takes

 

[96firephoenix]

my uncle lived in Chicago and carried. he had an encounter with CPD while carrying, and told the officer that the 2A pre-empted any Chicago laws, and the cop let him go about his way.

I do not advocate violating laws, but inherent rights trump laws.

 

[Cru]

my uncle lived in Chicago and carried. he had an encounter with CPD while carrying, and told the officer that the 2A pre-empted any Chicago laws, and the cop let him go about his way.

I do not advocate violating laws, but inherent rights trump laws.

That is RISKY! I mean I agree with him, but I wouldn't try it.

 

[melensdad]

During the 'school year' I am in Illinois an average of 6 days a week. My daughter attends high school in Illinois and I drive her. Plus I am the armorour for the high school fencing team and attend all the practices and competitions all around the collar counties of the Chicagoland area.

Living within sight of the state line makes it hard not to cross the line. As such I keep a gun safe in each of my cars and do my best to travel in accordance within the federal guidelines.

 

[rhino]

I've been boycotting Illinois because of their anti-gun and anti-liberty laws since 1998.

My friends and I used to have a joke about it when someone would ask me what I do when I get to the Illinois state line. The answer was "I go prone."

I won't go there and I my best to avoid patronizing any businesses there via the web as well.

This would change if and when the laws do.

 

[Hoosier8]

In Wisconsin, they don't take your prints, charge you a fee, or harrass you at the range, you can open carry everywhere. The restriction is in a moving vehicle.

We hunt, fish, camp in Illinois often, I also go to my kids school, the airport, fished and hunted in Canada, Mexico, and a few other places that don't provide the freedoms we enjoy here.

I unload at the gun show, the air show, the state fair, and have been in a few gun shops where I've had to unload as well.

you can open carry everywhere

That has just recently been decided by the Wisconsin courts and if you open carry in Milwaukee, don't expect a warm reception by the police.

 

[MadCity Hoosier]

I'm a native Hoosier, but the wife's from Wisconsin. We spent 5 years living there while she was working on her Ph.D. The worst part about the trip to and from IN and WI?.... Illinois. Trust me, I know WI doesn't allow law-abiding citizens to carry guns either, but IL just makes me mad. We would stop for gas and food at the border (in WI or IN) before dashing across IL. We will only stop in IL to pee and defecate. I used to give the bird to the "Land of Lincoln Welcomes You--Gov. Blagojevich" sign upon crossing into IL. Makes me mad just thinking about it.

 

[Hammerhead]

"Sorry, I can't even open the gun case with you standing here, let alone let you hold a gun."


As is often the case, the clerk was badly mistaken. As a non-resident, you are not required to have a FOID nor do you qualify. He could have sold you a long gun, and had you passed the NICS check, you could have taken it with you. Unlike IL residents who have to abide by a 24 hour waiting period.

AB

Oh, yeah, no worries there. I walked around picking up various long guns while we were waiting for his sorry butt to come and, y'know, provide some type of "customer service" (?!). They just have their handguns in a locked case in the middle of the department. He mentioned about us not qualifying for a FOID card being out of state visitors, but we were POd at his attitude and the wait we had to endure to even speak to an employee. We even told him we weren't worried about buying, just wanted to hold it so my wife could see how it felt.

-5 to Gander Mountain in Springfield, IL

 

[thompal]

Oh, yeah, no worries there. I walked around picking up various long guns while we were waiting for his sorry butt to come and, y'know, provide some type of "customer service" (?!). They just have their handguns in a locked case in the middle of the department. He mentioned about us not qualifying for a FOID card being out of state visitors, but we were POd at his attitude and the wait we had to endure to even speak to an employee. We even told him we weren't worried about buying, just wanted to hold it so my wife could see how it felt.

-5 to Gander Mountain in Springfield, IL

Well, how can you expect subjects to have any other attitude in the great socialist republic? That's all that their government tells them, and they must be satisfied with their government, or they'd get rid of it.

People only have the government that they will put up with, and Illinois' government has been such a den of corruption and tyranny that my high school government teacher made fun of them in the early 70's. Why do you think that the unConstitutional and corrupt entity that calls itself the Illinois state government wants their subjects unarmed? Can you imagine the housecleaning that would happen if those people realized that they are a free people and not subjects?