FBI agent negligent shooting

[LCSOSgt11]

Hopefully a soon to be unemployed FBI agent. Hopefully, he wasn't working on either the Clinton or Trump investigations. If so, one or two things have been explained.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Hopefully a soon to be unemployed FBI agent. Hopefully, he wasn't working on either the Clinton or Trump investigations. If so, one or two things have been explained.

I think that's a forgone conclusion. No way he survives this. Acting a fool, probably been drinking, someone gets shot... he's toast.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Oh, I like City BBQ. I wish they had one up here.

It's fair. I eat it often enough... but if you want some really good stuff- King's Ribs, on Keystone, near the fairgrounds. If you're scared of the area, you can take solace knowing that they have armed security, lol.

 

[BigRed]

Usually i just stick my gun in its holster and hold it upside down over my bed to check retention on a new one.

Im not sure any of my holsters are backflip rated, perhaps I should up my retention standards.

... but seriously can we stop doing stuff like this? I work in liberal land and everyday i get to hear about this kind of thing from them.

Makes the 2A harder to defend when i get " If an FBI agent cant be trusted then...."

Lack of trustworthiness of state is precisely the reason for the Second Amendment.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

City BBQ is a fine choice. More of a LGG fan myself.

Anywho, the 302 will make some reference to the gun being unloaded.

What is THE reason people ALWAYS give for reckless behavior firearms? Right, "eet ain't low-dead".

Refuse this flank and you eliminate a rationale for this reckless behaviour.

 

[rhino]

Since they are most often required to carry and covered by LEAP pay it's you and me that will be paying since he was within his "scope of employment". So the Agency will write a check. Depending on the relationship between the state and FBI Office he will probably not face serious criminal charges ((just the messenger bot agreeing)

His Agency will bot be as forgiving. Special Agents face minimum 30 day suspension for DUI so I can only imagine how this will fo. Why he chose to bust a move when carrying who knows.

Not sure what FBI rules are but when I worked for the US Marshals Service we were required to use a thumb break holster. Little different escorting prisoners to and from than investigating. And we must have been terrible dancers because none of us ever thought about doing it LOL

You couldn't be a worse dancer than that guy!

Yeah, it was wishful thinking on my part that the guy responsible for the negligence and injury to another person would be held personally accountable financially for the damages. I can dream.

 

[rhino]

City BBQ is a fine choice. More of a LGG fan myself.

Anywho, the 302 will make some reference to the gun being unloaded.

What is THE reason people ALWAYS give for reckless behavior firearms? Right, "eet ain't low-dead".

Refuse this flank and you eliminate a rationale for this reckless behaviour.

No, they don't.

It may be a common grasping at straws, last ditch excuse, but it's far from "always." Furthermore, even if they did always make that claim afterwards, it's not true that they always assumed it was unloaded. Many are lying in a dishonest but sometimes effective attempt to provide an excuse for their negligence.

The closest we have to always is someone typing some version of "eet ain't low-dead" in a message. I think the someone who does it . . . always . . . is under the false impression that doing so has a positive effect or in some way encourages people to more carefully adhere to proper risk management practices when handling firearms. That someone is incorrect. I recommend a more straightforward approach such as, "please learn from this incident and be careful to always follow appropriate risk management practices when you handle guns."

 

[jamil]

There's people who've made a living of being wantonly stupid on video. Isn't that the basic premise of Jackass and other shows of that genre?

Yeah, but it seems like there’s only so many times you can go to that well.

 

[jamil]

City BBQ is a fine choice. More of a LGG fan myself.

Anywho, the 302 will make some reference to the gun being unloaded.

What is THE reason people ALWAYS give for reckless behavior firearms? Right, "eet ain't low-dead".

Refuse this flank and you eliminate a rationale for this reckless behaviour.

It’s not always a nail.

 

[KLB]

It's fair. I eat it often enough... but if you want some really good stuff- King's Ribs, on Keystone, near the fairgrounds. If you're scared of the area, you can take solace knowing that they have armed security, lol.

All way too far for me to go. I can't be scared of that area. I have no idea where it it

 

[BehindBlueI's]

What is THE reason people ALWAYS give for reckless behavior firearms? Right, "eet ain't low-dead".
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I'll spot you 100 and still have talked to more people who hurt themselves or another via an unintended discharge than you have, easily. No, they don't.

Anywho, the 302 will make some reference to the gun being unloaded.

FBI agents disagree. Direct quote, "Such a claim would guarantee he's terminated for the incident, and I guarantee he will not try to claim that..."

I'm positive this won't change your dedication to your shtick, but the facts are against you no matter how many times you toss it out as a universal answer.

 

[IndianaSoloMcfly]

Maybe it was a trick shot? The guy at the bar who caught the bullet mustve been a bad guy.

back flip no scope?

 

[Trigger Time]

It's rare to catch such wanton stupidity on video. Hopefully the poor guy who got shot will recover and collect a nice sum directly from the individual whose negligence caused his injury and not the taxpayers.

Now come on. We both know that's not how it works. (Not picking on you). The system is flawed. The American people will be forking over big bundles of cash for this **** for brains mistake. FBI will most likely move to terminate but he will resign first and probably end up in the private sector somewhere.

 

[Hookeye]

Maybe some unemployed agent become street dancer did a flip and that's how Seth Rich caught one.

 

[Denny347]

It's fair. I eat it often enough... but if you want some really good stuff- King's Ribs, on Keystone, near the fairgrounds. If you're scared of the area, you can take solace knowing that they have armed security, lol.

16th and Tibbs...Tips dinner. LOVE that place.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

I'm positive this won't change your dedication to your shtick, but the facts are against you no matter how many times you toss it out as a universal answer.

No shtick, it is human nature.

I'll wait and see but I want to see that 302.

 

[jamil]

No shtick, it is human nature.

I'll wait and see but I want to see that 302.

It's human nature to post "eet ain't low-dead" on internet forums whenever someone has a ND?

I'll agree that it's an excuse often rendered, and that it is human nature to try to excuse one's stupid behaviors by blaming something/someone else. But it doesn't always manifest as "eet ain't low-dead". Dude knew it was "low-dead".

 

[ATM]

"eet aint low..."


WHACK!

 

[BehindBlueI's]

No shtick, it is human nature.

I'll wait and see but I want to see that 302.

No, it's a shtick. Any mention of an unintended discharge, regardless of situation or context, and you dive in with your speech impediment routine and trot out the "always blaming unloaded guns" which, again, reality does not show. It's worn thin, even among your friends.

The speech impediment shtick isn't helpful, it's just more noise in a crowded space. If you think it's helpful, I'd suggest reading Rhino's post again. Even people who you apparently count as a friend are telling you to rethink your approach. Does that tell you nothing? I've changed my safety brief based on incidents of unintended discharges. I incorporate a hot brass procedure, for example, which I didn't when I first started. When you hear an account of how somebody got hot brass down their shirt, danced around, and had an unintended discharge that killed someone the "Freeman shtick" helps nobody. It's not actionable. It creates no new mind set. It creates no thought process to pre-plan actions should the situation occur. It's just noise. Mentioning that it's possible to get hot brass down your shirt, it will hurt, but holster or ground your gun THEN dance it out is actionable. It creates a plan. The person now has a better chance of being safe with a gun when they find themselves in that situation because they don't have to think of a plan on the fly under pain, they can just execute what they've already thought about.

That's the difference between a shtick and actually advancing gun safety.

 

[KLB]

No, it's a shtick. Any mention of an unintended discharge, regardless of situation or context, and you dive in with your speech impediment routine and trot out the "always blaming unloaded guns" which, again, reality does not show. It's worn thin, even among your friends.

The speech impediment shtick isn't helpful, it's just more noise in a crowded space. If you think it's helpful, I'd suggest reading Rhino's post again. Even people who you apparently count as a friend are telling you to rethink your approach. Does that tell you nothing? I've changed my safety brief based on incidents of unintended discharges. I incorporate a hot brass procedure, for example, which I didn't when I first started. When you hear an account of how somebody got hot brass down their shirt, danced around, and had an unintended discharge that killed someone the "Freeman shtick" helps nobody. It's not actionable. It creates no new mind set. It creates no thought process to pre-plan actions should the situation occur. It's just noise. Mentioning that it's possible to get hot brass down your shirt, it will hurt, but holster or ground your gun THEN dance it out is actionable. It creates a plan. The person now has a better chance of being safe with a gun when they find themselves in that situation because they don't have to think of a plan on the fly under pain, they can just execute what they've already thought about.

That's the difference between a shtick and actually advancing gun safety.

Thanks for this. I will make sure to do that when I have people over to shoot from now on as well. I hadn't really thought about it.


Of course the rep gods are being stingy.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to BehindBlueI's again.