Fishers gas clerk arrested for intimidation, PD says pulled gun on theft suspect

[hpclayto]

The difference today, is that when the bad guy's defense attorney hears that story, and asks why the guy with the gun was charged, the officer who did the "moral" thing would be crucified. When I first started in LE, I learned early that if you give a break to someone (like lowering a ticket speed to save someone money), it can come back and bite you in the ass.

Exactly. Things weren't so damn litigious back in the day and you didn't have to worry about getting sued or fired for every little thing you did or didn't do.

 

[hopper68]

The difference today, is that when the bad guy's defense attorney hears that story, and asks why the guy with the gun was charged, the officer who did the "moral" thing would be crucified. When I first started in LE, I learned early that if you give a break to someone (like lowering a ticket speed to save someone money), it can come back and bite you in the ass.

The shop I used to work at had a scanner in it and I heard a good one. A young lady (license suspended at least 6 traffic stops ago) was pulled over and having her license run. Another LEO came on and said he gave her a break the last time she was stopped and she was fighting the tickets she got. The first Leo replied that he would give her plenty of tickets to fight.

Her husband had a suspended license too and the one thing I can tell you is that if you are going to drive suspended do not do it in a 20+ year old station wagon when there are no others around.

 

[SwikLS]

Theft vs Robbery

Man on top of van gets tasered by police in Greenwood, arrested for robbery | Fox 59

any more questions?

GJ GPD

 

[Trigger Time]

When there are no details, the logical thing to do is fill them in to fit your preconceived notions.



You should be good with that. No one cares if the bad guy gets a gun pointed at him...right?



Drawing a gun isn't Intimidation. If you commit Intimidation while drawing a deadly weapon, it is an enhancement though.

well except police point guns at good guys all the time too. So no I'm not good with it

 

[newtothis]

well except police point guns at good guys all the time too. So no I'm not good with it

Unfortunately "good" in the grand scheme of things is relative. Every scenario you/I/We/Us/They go into is predicated on information available at the time. Throw in bias, or judicious prejudice.... things escalate/de-escalate from there. I've seen some "bad" guys do good and I've seen "good" guys do bad.

If it is truly offensive.... come on here and pitch a fit, file a formal complaint, or pursue litigious remedy...life's not fair, things happen, the world keeps spinning. $.02

 

[IndyDave1776]

Can a quadriplegic be charged with armed robbery?

 

[actaeon277]

Can a quadriplegic be charged with armed robbery?

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[hpclayto]

Unfortunately "good" in the grand scheme of things is relative. Every scenario you/I/We/Us/They go into is predicated on information available at the time. Throw in bias, or judicious prejudice.... things escalate/de-escalate from there. I've seen some "bad" guys do good and I've seen "good" guys do bad.

If it is truly offensive.... come on here and pitch a fit, file a formal complaint, or pursue litigious remedy...life's not fair, things happen, the world keeps spinning. $.02

Now is not the time to be logical! This is INGO for crying out loud.

 

[newtothis]

Im sorry HP.... I thought this was America!

 

[lonehoosier]

Guy talks about this on his show.

https://omny.fm/shows/the-gun-guy/6-24-17-gun-guy-hr-1

https://omny.fm/shows/the-gun-guy/6-24-17-gun-guy-hr-2

 

[Tactically Fat]

Theft vs Robbery

Man on top of van gets tasered by police in Greenwood, arrested for robbery | Fox 59

any more questions?

GJ GPD

That happened 2.2 road miles from my driveway.

Dude is probably lucky he didn't break his neck as he so gracefully fell to the ground - head first.

 

[HubertGummer]

I can understand why what the clerk did was illegal, though I disagree with the law in this case.

I have no problem with a law that says you can't point a gun at an person that has not broke any laws.

I think if a person is going to break any laws however, they should expect to be greeted by a muzzle--not shot uless it was a forcible felony though, just held until the cops got there.

 

[singlesix]

I can understand why what the clerk did was illegal, though I disagree with the law in this case.

I have no problem with a law that says you can't point a gun at an person that has not broke any laws.

I think if a person is going to break any laws however, they should expect to be greeted by a muzzle--not shot uless it was a forcible felony though, just held until the cops got there.

So person jay walks and boom point a gun at him?

 

[HubertGummer]

So person jay walks and boom point a gun at him?

OK. I forgot this was INGO. Let me clarify- breaks the law in a way that negatively impacts others.(car break in, knockout game, theft, burglary etc...)

 

[BehindBlueI's]

I can understand why what the clerk did was illegal, though I disagree with the law in this case.

Just a point of order, none of us really know what happened. Every single "it's justified" or "it's not justified" is based strictly on the supposition of what happened based on a media account.

I'm sure folks are tired of hearing me say this, but media accounts are often so wrong I sometimes don't recognize my own cases on the news until a name is mentioned. They care about being first and about generating attention (controversy), not about being right.

 

[HubertGummer]

Just a point of order, none of us really know what happened. Every single "it's justified" or "it's not justified" is based strictly on the supposition of what happened based on a media account.

I'm sure folks are tired of hearing me say this, but media accounts are often so wrong I sometimes don't recognize my own cases on the news until a name is mentioned. They care about being first and about generating attention (controversy), not about being right.

I agree, but that doesn't mean that the story as printed (as inaccurate as it may be) can't be used as an example and point of discussion.

 

[churchmouse]

Just a point of order, none of us really know what happened. Every single "it's justified" or "it's not justified" is based strictly on the supposition of what happened based on a media account.

I'm sure folks are tired of hearing me say this, but media accounts are often so wrong I sometimes don't recognize my own cases on the news until a name is mentioned. They care about being first and about generating attention (controversy), not about being right.

Bingo.
It seems they are being called out for this lately. Nationally.

 

[Trigger Time]

"Fake news! REALY fake news"
lol I love my President !

 

[Joniki]

"Fake news! REALY fake news"
lol I love my President !

He is NOT YOUR president. He is mine...

 

[Trigger Time]

Lol