Fmr Marine arrested over internet posts; FBI says comments "terrorist in nature"

[traderdan]

Dee Rybiski,spokesperson for the FBI..."Given the circumstances with the things that have gone on in this country,with some of these mass shootings,it would be horrible for law enforcement not to pay attention to complaints." Sounds like the sheep are demanding protection from their Overlords.

 

[mrjarrell]

At least he has someone on his side now that might be able to regain him his freedom. The Rutherford Institute has stepped in. Hopefully they'll be able to get him out of the clutches of the government and their agents.

Brandon Raub Involuntarily Committed for First Amendment Speech on Facebook? | The Agitator

 

[Justin Case]

One good way to create fear is to have the government show up at your door, handcuff you and take you away for a mental evaluation. This might just tend to silence any opposition.

 

[mrjarrell]

One good way to create fear is to have the government show up at your door, handcuff you and take you away for a mental evaluation. This might just tend to silence any opposition.

Worked for the Soviets.

 

[mydoghasfleas]

He was not "arrested" they say. Merely taken in for an evaluation at a mental health facility.

Arrest: "to seize (a person) by legal authority or warrant"

 

[Evermoore]

Worked for the Soviets.

And still is!

 

[rambone]

No judge, no jury, no appeal. I've seen far more provocative internet posts than his vague facebook ramblings. Keep telling yourselves that you're free.

 

[2ADMNLOVER]

" Terrorist in nature " WOW !

What exactly qualifies as " terrorist in nature " . I bet a lot of us could be caught up in that vague net .

Where exactly is the line before the Gestapo , I mean KGB , I mean FBI comes busting down your door ?

Welcome to Amerika , comrade .

 

[sepe]

He was not "arrested" they say. Merely taken in for an evaluation at a mental health facility.

Arrest: "to seize (a person) by legal authority or warrant"

Merely taken in for an evaluation at a mental health facility for a month. Most of the articles I've read, the authorities have been falling back on one post. That post was lyrics from a Swollen Members song. While I wouldn't say that I like Swollen Members, being a fan is no reason to be locked up in a psyche hospital.

 

[malern28us]

Merely taken in for an evaluation at a mental health facility for a month. Most of the articles I've read, the authorities have been falling back on one post. That post was lyrics from a Swollen Members song. While I wouldn't say that I like Swollen Members, being a fan is no reason to be locked up in a psyche hospital.

I thought it was only 72 hour hold for evaluation unless court ordered. That would require an arraignment, would it not?

 

[Expat]

Once they go to the psychiatric facility, it is a whole different ball game. It is between the shrink and the judge. The PoPo is out of the decision on being locked up. It is also all very private.

 

[malern28us]

Once they go to the psychiatric facility, it is a whole different ball game. It is between the shrink and the judge. The PoPo is out of the decision on being locked up. It is also all very private.

But how can a judge be involved if the person is not in the system? Where is the due process? Everyone wonders how people can get so mad ...

 

[sepe]

I thought it was only 72 hour hold for evaluation unless court ordered. That would require an arraignment, would it not?

He had a hearing Monday. Judge ordered up to 30 days further confinement in the psyche hospital.

 

[netsecurity]

So basically he has been adjudicated as mentally unsound, and thus they have suspended his second amendment rights, because of exercising his first amendment rights?

I sure hope there is a better reason they arrested him than simply the internet posts. I've seen hundreds of crazier and more radical posts than that--just google "9-11 conspiracy" or similar.

 

[malern28us]

So basically he has been adjudicated as mentally unsound, and thus they have suspended his second amendment rights, because of exercising his first amendment rights?

I sure hope there is a better reason they arrested him than simply the internet posts. I've seen hundreds of crazier and more radical posts than that--just google "9-11 conspiracy" or similar.

A total BS trainride if you ask me.

 

[Justin Case]

But how can a judge be involved if the person is not in the system? Where is the due process? Everyone wonders how people can get so mad ...

It's simple, the (Comment redacted by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security). And, that's pretty much it.

 

[sepe]

So basically he has been adjudicated as mentally unsound, and thus they have suspended his second amendment rights, because of exercising his first amendment rights?

I sure hope there is a better reason they arrested him than simply the internet posts. I've seen hundreds of crazier and more radical posts than that--just google "9-11 conspiracy" or similar.

Everything I've read has said it was about his Facebook posts. I haven't seen anything that mentioned the other forums he was active on or the groups he participated in...just Facebook. Several articles I've read have stated that the 30 day evaluation is to see if he is unsound mentally. It almost makes me wonder if they saw that there was nothing wrong with him after the 72 hour and they're possibly trying to break him so they can claim he is mentally unsound.

 

[Expat]

But how can a judge be involved if the person is not in the system? Where is the due process? Everyone wonders how people can get so mad ...

For him to be in past 72 hours, he would have appeared before a judge for a commitment hearing. Which he apparently had if they are describing him as involuntarily committed. He would have had his own attorney present for that hearing.

 

[Justin Case]

Apparently someone didn't realize what he posted on facebook was taken from the lyrics of "Take Me Down" by the Rap Group Swollen Members.

"When Mad Child step on stage, I cause hysteria
Now they won't let my crazy ass back in America
Eagle labeled me as an illegal evil immigrant
I'm far beyond the magic of a wand inside a wizard's fist
Sharper than the hand of Edward Scissor's, I'm a wiz at this
Hotter than the desert but I'm colder than a blizzard kid
Harder than a prison bid, with God I'm never hesitant
My business it isn't as amazin as it's ever been
As long as God allows me to be clever it will never end
Sharpen up my axe and I am back, I'm here to sever heads
Compulsive obsessive, I'm also aggressive
My mouth is the message, my life is a lesson, my pulse is a blessing"

-Swollen Members, Bring Me Down Lyrics

SWOLLEN MEMBERS LYRICS - Bring Me Down

 

[parsimonious]

What concerns me the most and an update, maybe.

Col. Thierry Dupuis, the county police chief, said Raub was taken into custody upon the recommendation of mental health crisis intervention workers. He said the action was taken in accordance with the state’s emergency custody statute, which allows a magistrate to order the civil detention and psychiatric evaluation of a person deemed to be potentially dangerous.

from: Marine vet detained for strident Facebook posts - Marine Corps News | News from Afghanistan & Iraq - Marine Corps Times
Emphasis mine.

Raub interview? or fake?
Video - Kidnapped Marine vet Brandon Raub speaks out from psych ward - Richmond Liberty Movement | Examiner.com

No one has arrested him, he's in custody, with no warrant, no accusation.
Because he was deemed potentially dangerous. Potentially is what
really irks me about all this. Who isn't potentially dangerous...
well, except me of course. RIGHT, G MEN?

Was he committed against his will? So long rights.