Gun Community Myopic and Asleep. Ideas for action needed.

[fullmetaljesus]

Some one who is good at organizing stuff should put together a protest thread to stage gatherings.

 

[2A_Tom]

Everywhere I have worked from the army to Church, the rule is "your idea, you organize it."

You will be surprised to learn why most of the INGO event organizers burn out after a few years.

 

[KellyinAvon]

Correct. We have the numbers and the incentive. We just need to foster an idea that will gain traction with gun owners and be significantly telegenic.

Is telegenic code for "has teeth"??

 

[eldirector]

Correction!! As of 1 July 2019 there were 917,358Hoosiers with an active LTCH.

https://www.in.gov/isp/files/ISP_Fi...istics_2019_Issued_and_Active_2nd_Quarter.pdf

Well, THAT is better. One in, oh, about 7 Hoosiers are (potentially) armed? I will amend future emails.

I will also continue to OC or CC however I please, as my mood and attire dictates. That is MY policy.

 

[2A_Tom]

Step one, We respectfully ask that you do not Openly Carry in our store.

Step two, We respectfully ask that you do not carry in our store.

Step three, Placement of signs that do not have force of law in Indiana.

Step four, Either placement of signs like Demanding Mommies designed for the NRAAM (which met the threshold) or pressure on the State gets so high that they enact an IC that listed on a slash gun sign has force of law.



I am certain that demanding mommies will push owners to post their signs soon, if not already.

 

[mergatroid]

Is telegenic code for "has teeth"??

Yes that would be great and preferable. But I was thinking more of a media appeal. Something quirky but meaningful at the same time? Like the traveling flash mob idea. Not your normal protest.

But a normal protest with speakers on the Indiana State House lawn would be good too.

(Heck I don't know, just throwing stuff out to see if there is enough interest to form some kind of ad hoc committee to start organizing.)

 

[mergatroid]

Well, THAT is better. One in, oh, about 7 Hoosiers are (potentially) armed? I will amend future emails.

I will also continue to OC or CC however I please, as my mood and attire dictates. That is MY policy.

Agree. I do what I call "I don't care carry". If it shows, so what. If it sticks out the bottom of the shirt, so what. Printing? What is printing?

 

[mergatroid]

Step one, We respectfully ask that you do not Openly Carry in our store.

Step two, We respectfully ask that you do not carry in our store.

Step three, Placement of signs that do not have force of law in Indiana.

Step four, Either placement of signs like Demanding Mommies designed for the NRAAM (which met the threshold) or pressure on the State gets so high that they enact an IC that listed on a slash gun sign has force of law.



I am certain that demanding mommies will push owners to post their signs soon, if not already.

ON THE NOSE. That is why I started this thread!

 

[2A_Tom]

It matters not what you or I desire.

First they came for the Openly Carriers, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Open Carrier.
Then they came for the AR's and AK"S, and I did not speak out—
Because I Did not have an AR or AK.
Then they came for the Pistols, and I did not speak out—
Because I Had a shotgun.
Then they came for my shotgun—and there was no one left to speak for me.

There are too many people that will sit on their hands and do nothing.

A couple have asked for a volunteer to step forward and organize. It is not surprising that no one is stepping forward. It is a really tough job to organize anything.

I attempted to organize M&E's for a while. All it involved was finding a restaurant, posting it on INGO, keeping track of who is coming and showing up. When no one else shows up it gets disheartening.

The bigger ones that actually happen take a lot more time and planning.

I will not be going to Indy for this and you probably won't come to NWI either.

I also feel that a Saturday event at the State House is pretty useless, since no one is there.

 

[KellyinAvon]

It matters not what you or I desire.

First they came for the Openly Carriers, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Open Carrier.
Then they came for the AR's and AK"S, and I did not speak out—
Because I Did not have an AR or AK.
Then they came for the Pistols, and I did not speak out—
Because I Had a shotgun.
Then they came for my shotgun—and there was no one left to speak for me.

There are too many people that will sit on their hands and do nothing.

A couple have asked for a volunteer to step forward and organize. It is not surprising that no one is stepping forward. It is a really tough job to organize anything.

I attempted to organize M&E's for a while. All it involved was finding a restaurant, posting it on INGO, keeping track of who is coming and showing up. When no one else shows up it gets disheartening.

The bigger ones that actually happen take a lot more time and planning.

I will not be going to Indy for this and you probably won't come to NWI either.

I also feel that a Saturday event at the State House is pretty useless, since no one is there.

I've often considered posting something reminiscent of Martin Niemoller's poem. Firearms registration under the Weimar Republic led to confiscation by the nazis.

 

[KellyinAvon]

Yes that would be great and preferable. But I was thinking more of a media appeal. Something quirky but meaningful at the same time? Like the traveling flash mob idea. Not your normal protest.

But a normal protest with speakers on the Indiana State House lawn would be good too.

(Heck I don't know, just throwing stuff out to see if there is enough interest to form some kind of ad hoc committee to start organizing.)

Traveling flash mob, I like the sound of that.

 

[mergatroid]

It matters not what you or I desire.



There are too many people that will sit on their hands and do nothing.

A couple have asked for a volunteer to step forward and organize. It is not surprising that no one is stepping forward. It is a really tough job to organize anything.

Well..... I kind of am, organizing that is. Looking for ideas and others with passion right now.

BTW, thanks for the tip on the Saturday State House thing. Good point.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Traveling flash mob, I like the sound of that.

Will there be choreography involved?

 

[2A_Tom]

BTW, thanks for the tip on the Saturday State House thing. Good point.

That is not really a tip, any other day and no one will be there, they have to work.

 

[KellyinAvon]

Will there be choreography involved?

I sure hope not

 

[mergatroid]

That is not really a tip, any other day and no one will be there, they have to work.

You would be surprised. Lunch time, bright sunny day. Media is just around the corner, they show up. Link with a few other groups of like minded folk. We drew 300 one afternoon when the Indiana Supreme's decided that illegal entry into homes was OK.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

I sure hope not

Are you sure? I was thinking a West Side Story kinda vibe might be cool... lots of finger snapping...

(skip to about 1:30)

[video=youtube;4jzIyP5wN_I]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jzIyP5wN_I[/video]

 

[COOPADUP]

On 14 April 2018 we put about 1,500 gun owners in front of the Statehouse. From Senate Ave to Capitol Ave it was from the wall of the Capitol grounds to to edge of Washington Street nothing but a sea of humanity. How many would it take to put 10 in every Kroger, every Wal-Mart, every Walgreens...

I remember that day very well. I was downtown at a wedding in the Statehouse. Impressive numbers with American flags carried. Probably the most impressive part was the number of open carry AR rifles moving towards the Statehouse.

 

[mergatroid]

Are you sure? I was thinking a West Side Story kinda vibe might be cool... lots of finger snapping...

(skip to about 1:30)

[video=youtube;4jzIyP5wN_I]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jzIyP5wN_I[/video]

A Jet is a Jet, for sure. But let's not forget the Shark! Baby Shark! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX20kcp7j5c

 

[88E30M50]

Yes that would be great and preferable. But I was thinking more of a media appeal. Something quirky but meaningful at the same time? Like the traveling flash mob idea. Not your normal protest.

But a normal protest with speakers on the Indiana State House lawn would be good too.

(Heck I don't know, just throwing stuff out to see if there is enough interest to form some kind of ad hoc committee to start organizing.)

I think that it’s time for protests. How many other groups would stand by while their rights were being trampled without a protest.