I've been converted, BS, no I havn't

[Bill of Rights]

Unfortunately, I cannot vote in this poll, because as has been true many times before, I can't honestly say I'm voting FOR anyone. I will be voting against Ms Lewinsky's ex-boyfriend's wife, however.

Hillary for prison 2017!!

Blessings,
Bill

 

[jamil]

This election may be more about the Vice Presidential candidate anyway. Perhaps the people will eventually recognize the idiocy and demand either Hillary's or Trump's impeachment. If I had confidence that the people could wise up, I'd vote for Trump because freedom is slightly safer with Pence once Trump is impeached.

 

[spencer rifle]

The MSM and Hillary's endorsements keep pushing me where I don't want to go - towards Trump.

 

[ATM]

The MSM and Hillary's endorsements keep pushing me where I don't want to go - towards Trump.

Directions exist which are away from both if you're just wanting to leave the general area that those two occupy.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

The MSM and Hillary's endorsements keep pushing me where I don't want to go - towards Trump.

If that's the excuse you want to tell yourself to feel better.

There are far more directions.

 

[churchmouse]

Over the last few years, I've been convinced that while I am very sympathetic to libertarian ideals, the Libertarian party is a joke and Libertarians are so argumentative and self-sabotaging that they will never be able to convince the majority of the nation that their ideals are worth following. Too bad. I was a prime candidate for such a conversion.

I was here as well but some of what the believe is just to far off the base line for me.

Add to this the stead fast self sabotage aspect and I have to say no for the reasons you list.

Sadly the 2 party's that are running the big show suck butt's. Until there is a viable alternative we are screwed

 

[churchmouse]

There are far more directions.

No.....no there are not any other viable choices. Choices, yes. Viable.........Nope.

 

[printcraft]

If that's the excuse you want to tell yourself to feel better.

There are far more directions.

All roads lead to Rome.

 

[jamil]

All roads lead to Rome.

Which implies all roads lead away from Rome too.

Wait. When did scientists invent one-way signs? You may be correct.

 

[printcraft]

Given outcome... no matter how much one wishes otherwise.

 

[Fargo]

No.....no there are not any other viable choices. Choices, yes. Viable.........Nope.

If we are going to assess viability off polls, they're actually is only one viable candidate in Indiana, that being Donald Trump. If he is not the only viable candidate in a red state where his vice president pick is from, then there really is only one viable candidate in the national election, Hillary Clinton. The polling fromOhio, Virginia, Pennsylvania, Florida, etc. make this a given.

The way the electoral college is set up, if Trump doesn't have a lock on Indiana, Hillary has a lock on the whole shebang.

I am not saying that this is necessarily actually the case, but if we are insisting on assessing viability based off polls then it absolutely is.

 

[churchmouse]

Given outcome... no matter how much one wishes otherwise.

And this will be the result regardless of our discussions, desires, opinions on the power structure of this nation. It has been rolling this way for years and we have done literally nothing to stop/alter it. Nothing.

 

[printcraft]

If Trump loses Indiana, he has lost the election a whole bunch of other ways (Ohio, Florida, Pennsylvania, Virginia, etc) first. Me voting for him does nothing but help give him a popular vote mandate. If he wins, I want him to have 0 mandate. I can see no upside to giving my vote to a person I have no respect for and do not trust.

If I lived in a state listed above, it would be a harder question. In my current residence, I don't see a way for me to vote for either main candidate in good conscience. Hillary is scum, Trump is scum-lite. I'm not helping scum-lite get a mandate.

If Trump is elected he will have the media hounding his ass from day one.
It hitlary is elected she will have cover from day one much like obama.

 

[2A_Tom]

My daddy always said, you can in one hand and vote for Johnson in the other, and see which one gets elected.

Or something like that.

 

[ATM]

No.....no there are not any other viable choices. Choices, yes. Viable.........Nope.

Enough people waiting for a viable alternative prevent the possibility of ever making an alternative viable.

 

[jamil]

Enough people waiting for a viable alternative prevent the possibility of ever making an alternative viable.

There is some truth to that.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Enough people waiting for a viable alternative prevent the possibility of ever making an alternative viable.

There is some truth to that.

"THERE'S NO TIME FOR A THIRD PARTY... MAYBE ONE DAY... BUT THIS ELECTION IS TOO IMPORTANT. BEND THE KNEE!"

Now repeat that every 4 years for the rest of time.

 

[MisterChester]

If that's the excuse you want to tell yourself to feel better.

There are far more directions.

Hillary, Gary "Aleppo" Johnson, and Jill not-so-ein-Stein

None of these are directions I want to go.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Hillary, Gary "Aleppo" Johnson, and Jill not-so-ein-Stein

None of these are directions I want to go.

There's also right where you are, right now. No need to sell your soul or give up your pride by voting in any of these people. They can make it without you, or I.

 

[padawan]

2A = vote here.

And don't try to out stare the 'dramatic gopher' as my 2 teen Sons tell me its a 7 year old meme.

I think its funny but I'm