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  • flatlander

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    Its really really hard to kill yourself with a knife, especially when there are emergency personnel a few feet away.

    Contain her, continue talking to her.

    Bribe her with ice cream.

    Your massive amount of personal experience in these type of high stress, highly violent situations is showing again:rolleyes:

    Bob
     

    BehindBlueI's

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    Most folks have tried reasoning prior to calling 911. If your idea begins "just do. .." the parents and other adults have already tried to just....and it failed.

    If my son tried some mess like that with a knife he'd wish I had tased him.
     

    Denny347

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    What are the lies? Not arguing, honestly wondering. The information I've read is sketchy, at best.
    “The force of the electricity shot through her body, lifted her, and threw her against a wall,” the suit alleges.
    Having been present during recruit Taser class and being Tased myself, it is in NO WAY as described. It's not possible. That is the stuff of TV. If enough current is flowing through you to pick you up and throw you...you are dead. Just reading that lie is enough for me to disregard the suit entirely.
     

    vitamink

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    Your massive amount of personal experience in these type of high stress, highly violent situations is showing again:rolleyes:

    Bob


    I've personally seen a lady saw through her neck with a knife before, medics and police were about 10 ft from her when she did it. Seemed pretty easy when she did it.
     

    BiscuitNaBasket

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    Pffftttt! Rambone has seen worse!

    Wait for it...wait for it....
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    Timjoebillybob

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    “The force of the electricity shot through her body, lifted her, and threw her against a wall,” the suit alleges.
    Having been present during recruit Taser class and being Tased myself, it is in NO WAY as described. It's not possible. That is the stuff of TV. If enough current is flowing through you to pick you up and throw you...you are dead. Just reading that lie is enough for me to disregard the suit entirely.

    According to the investigation by the state DCI the girl had her back to the wall and when Tased, fell back and slid down the wall. That sounds much more accurate. And the parring knife the attorney mentioned? According to the babysitter via the 911 calls and the officers it was a steak knife, just a slight difference. And the emergency medical care? A pair of bandaids for the Taser darts. Oh and there were 3 officers not 4. I'm going to guess he just glanced at the incident report and saw 4 interview reports and didn't bother to actually read them to find out one was from the babysitter.

    Oh and she didn't get the full 5 seconds, the officer killed it manually.
    http://www.drgnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Report-on-2013-Tasing-Incident.pdf


    I've personally seen a lady saw through her neck with a knife before, medics and police were about 10 ft from her when she did it. Seemed pretty easy when she did it.

    Damn, that had to be rough to see. You have my sympathy.
     

    Andy Wayne

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    I'm sure they would have also sued if they stood by and watched her cut herself. "They are here to protect us, and they just stood there while my charming little princess sliced her wrist."

    If they did, they would lose.

    Police have no legal duty to respond and prevent crime or protect the victim. There have BEEN OVER 10 various supreme and state court cases the individual has never won. Notably, the Supreme Court STATED about the responsibility of police for the security of your family and loved ones is "You, and only you, are responsible for your security and the security of your family and loved ones. That was the essence of a U.S. Supreme Court decision in the early 1980's when they ruled that the police do not have a duty to protect you as an individual, but to protect society as a whole."

    "It is well-settled fact of American law that the police have no legal duty to protect any individual citizen from crime, even if the citizen has received death threats and the police have negligently failed to provide protection."

    Sources:
    7/15/05 SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES No. 04-278 TOWN OF CASTLE ROCK, COLORADO, PETITIONER v. JESSICA GONZALES, INDIVIDUALLY AND AS NEXT BEST FRIEND OF HER DECEASED MINOR CHILDREN, REBECCA GONZALES, KATHERYN GONZALES, AND LESLIE GONZALES
    On June 27, in the case of Castle Rock v. Gonzales, the Supreme Court found that Jessica Gonzales did not have a constitutional right to individual police protection even in the presence of a restraining order. Mrs. Gonzales' husband with a track record of violence, stabbing Mrs. Gonzales to death, Mrs. Gonzales' family could not get the Supreme Court to change their unanimous decision for one's individual protection. YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN FOLKS AND GOVERNMENT BODIES ARE REFUSING TO PASS THE Safety Ordinance.

    (1) Richard W. Stevens. 1999. Dial 911 and Die. Hartford, Wisconsin: Mazel Freedom Press.
    (2) Barillari v. City of Milwaukee, 533 N.W.2d 759 (Wis. 1995).
    (3) Bowers v. DeVito, 686 F.2d 616 (7th Cir. 1982).
    (4) DeShaney v. Winnebago County Department of Social Services, 489 U.S. 189 (1989).
    (5) Ford v. Town of Grafton, 693 N.E.2d 1047 (Mass. App. 1998).
    (6) Warren v. District of Columbia, 444 A.2d 1 (D.C. 1981).
    "...a government and its agencies are under no general duty to provide public services, such as police protection, to any particular individual citizen..." -Warren v. District of Columbia, 444 A.2d 1 (D.C. App. 1981)

    (7) "What makes the City's position particularly difficult to understand is that, in conformity to the dictates of the law, Linda did not carry any weapon for self-defense. Thus by a rather bitter irony she was required to rely for protection on the City of NY which now denies all responsibility to her."
    Riss v. New York, 22 N.Y.2d 579,293 N.Y.S.2d 897, 240 N.E.2d 806 (1958).

    (8) "Law enforcement agencies and personnel have no duty to protect individuals from the criminal acts of others; instead their duty is to preserve the peace and arrest law breakers for the protection of the general public."
    Lynch v. N.C. Dept. of Justice, 376 S.E. 2nd 247 (N.C. App. 1989)

    New York Times, Washington DC
    Justices Rule Police Do Not Have a Constitutional Duty to Protect Someone By LINDA GREENHOUSE Published: June 28, 2005
    The ruling applies even for a woman who had obtained a court-issued protective order against a violent husband making an arrest mandatory for a violation.

     

    HoughMade

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    So the Supreme Court says that cops should remain spectators when a child is trying to harm herself. Gotcha.

    You seem to be under the impression that just because the Supreme Court says something, no one can sue and you won't spend years in litigation. My kids' college fund is here to tell you, that's not the case. Also, there are situations where and undertaking can indeed result in a duty.

    IN BIG, HUGE LETTERS....FEW OF US ARE BLIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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