Metal detectors at Riley Hospital

[HoughMade]

I carry whenever I can, but it's not a fetish. Risk/reward enters the equation. If my son needs medical care and Riley is the best option, the reward of better medical care far outweighs the risk of being temporarily without a firearm. Ideally I'd like to have both, but if I have to choose it's a very easy decision to make.

You and me both.

 

[Thegeek]

Just say "I'm wearing a medical device". And if they pursue, tell them they're violating your health privacy.

 

[HoughMade]

Just say "I'm wearing a medical device". And if they pursue, tell them they're violating your health privacy.

Take careful notes on how that goes. We're all going to want to hear about it.

 

[rooster]

This may be the unpopular opinion but in this case I don’t care. I spent some time earlier this year in the NICU with my daughter and carrying a weapon was the furthest thing from my mind. Didn’t carry one for the entire duration and didn’t think twice about it.

That at said I also think it is irresponsible of any private facility to prohibit weapons without adaquate uniformed police AND security presence. It’s cost prohibitive to have a bunch of officers for on staff at all times but just one or two officers for these large hospital campuses is unacceptable. They need to be supplemented with private security personnel because not every single incident requires a officer armed to the teeth.

 

[brotherbill3]

Just say "I'm wearing a medical device". And if they pursue, tell them they're violating your health privacy.

Not at Riley - but I think somewhere else - I know a guy this worked for - ... of course - he did actually have an LVAD to keep his heart running;
he just also had another tool to help protect himself and those around him too.

 

[brotherbill3]

This may be the unpopular opinion but in this case I don’t care. I spent some time earlier this year in the NICU with my daughter and carrying a weapon was the furthest thing from my mind. Didn’t carry one for the entire duration and didn’t think twice about it.

That at said I also think it is irresponsible of any private facility to prohibit weapons without adaquate uniformed police AND security presence. It’s cost prohibitive to have a bunch of officers for on staff at all times but just one or two officers for these large hospital campuses is unacceptable. They need to be supplemented with private security personnel because not every single incident requires a officer armed to the teeth.

My daughter works at a NICU and I wish she could at least legally carry there, though she has had escort OUT from security to her car a few times.

The problem here is those of us generally being kept out / disarmed from the hospital to our car or other - are not the problem or the risk.
That's where the ignorance comes in.

And a few yrs ago. - I carried in the NICU when grandsons were born and OR waiting areas when others had surgeries. without issue.

When it is prohibited at all the places you intend to go - then your right is effectively null and void - even to be able to carry to and from places.
yet those destinations - nor the police hold any liability or responsibility for your safety to or from or even on site.

 

[yeahbaby]

Take careful notes on how that goes. We're all going to want to hear about it.

Yep.

 

[jkdbjj]

I carry whenever I can, but it's not a fetish. Risk/reward enters the equation. If my son needs medical care and Riley is the best option, the reward of better medical care far outweighs the risk of being temporarily without a firearm. Ideally I'd like to have both, but if I have to choose it's a very easy decision to make.

Exactly right. I would say that is common sense...but it is not as common as it once was....

People also need to train to survive in situations where a firearm cannot be carried...stop believing that being without a firearm = "unarmed".

 

[Dead Duck]

Exactly right. I would say that is common sense...but it is not as common as it once was....

People also need to train to survive in situations where a firearm cannot be carried...stop believing that being without a firearm = "unarmed".

Oh I do and it's easier than people think.
I carry my guns everywhere I go. Period..

See, Easy.

 

[bwframe]

I don't get why some allow obvious emotions concerning a child's healthcare to enter the discussion about a corporation creating a no gun zone for the public? A public that often has no choice in the matter of whether to go to Riley or not.

 

[HoughMade]

I don't get why some allow obvious emotions concerning a child's healthcare to enter the discussion about a corporation creating a no gun zone for the public? A public that often has no choice in the matter of whether to go to Riley or not.

I don't know that anyone is saying that the policy is good or proper or wise or anything. They're just saying that the policy won't change their decision making about their child's healthcare if that is the where the best care is.

Seems reasonable.

 

[Denny347]

Exactly right. I would say that is common sense...but it is not as common as it once was....

People also need to train to survive in situations where a firearm cannot be carried...stop believing that being without a firearm = "unarmed".

 

[Crittersdad]

Amen they saved my oldest daughter's life

 

[bwframe]

I don't know that anyone is saying that the policy is good or proper or wise or anything. They're just saying that the policy won't change their decision making about their child's healthcare if that is the where the best care is.

Seems reasonable.

As mentioned above, in a lot of cases you don't really have a choice whether your child is sent to Riley or not.

 

[HoughMade]

As mentioned above, in a lot of cases you don't really have a choice whether your child is sent to Riley or not.

I understand that, so.......

 

[MarkC]

When my son was young, and I was still a trooper on ISP, and his hearing was at risk, it was a very talented physician and a clinic supporting him at Riley that saved my son's hearing. Not life and death, like so many other cases, but vitally important to the quality of his life (and our lives, as a family).

If a family member needed Riley treatment again today, I know the decision I would make when weighing my child's health against my need and desire to be armed.

 

[HoughMade]

When my son was young, and I was still a trooper on ISP, and his hearing was at risk, it was a very talented physician and a clinic supporting him at Riley that saved my son's hearing. Not life and death, like so many other cases, but vitally important to the quality of his life (and our lives, as a family).

If a family member needed Riley treatment again today, I know the decision I would make when weighing my child's health against my need and desire to be armed.

Also reasonable, IMHO

All the while, of course, we should feel free to let them know how we feel about this policy.

 

[lonehoosier]

WOW!! Some of you guys are so short sided. Tell that to your wife and daughter. No no honey you don’t need a gun you just need to muscle up and stop being a little bady.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

I don't get why some allow obvious emotions concerning a child's healthcare to enter the discussion about a corporation creating a no gun zone for the public? A public that often has no choice in the matter of whether to go to Riley or not.

I must have missed that.

I don't think I can get the policy changed, so I have to deal with reality as it exists. The reality is the policy now exists. If my child needs care at Riley and I have to disarm, then I'll disarm. I'm not going to compromise my child's care because of the policy, regardless of what I think about it. It's not a coffee shop or a concert where choosing not to go has rather limited consequences.

 

[rhino]

I don't know that anyone is saying that the policy is good or proper or wise or anything. They're just saying that the policy won't change their decision making about their child's healthcare if that is the where the best care is.

Seems reasonable.

Your previous emoticon eye rolling and its implications are inconsistent with your statement. That's not just what is being said.