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Obama Invokes Executive Privilege to Withhold Fast & Furious Documents
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You have to consider the audience I'm speaking to here. One label is much more promenent than the other. The dems kicked and screamed when Bush invoked executive privelage and the repubs backed him. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, the repubs are kicking and screaming while the dems back Obama. Consistency. Both parties should try it sometime.
On the surface of truth. Google "Hillary Clinton assault weapon ban Mexico" and it will turn up the ultimate goal of this operation.
Our government illegally approved thousands of straw purchases on guns they were guiding into Mexico.
Those guns were used to kill thousands of people.
ATF, DoJ, and the rest of the ban gang (DoS [Clinton], WH, etc.) begin talking about how all of these American guns are flowing into Mexico (Wow, I wonder where they came from?), causing all of this violence, and so, of course, we need to reinstate the assault weapons ban to save the Mexicans. Fortunately, they were busted as the dumb ****s that they are, and we found out that this was their goal all along. So, in short, they send guns into Mexico, expecting violence to ensue, so that they can clamp down on gun shops, institute multiple long gun sales reports (which they still did, even after they got caught LOL!), etc., and of course, ban assault weapons.
The people are upset, so part of Congress is upset.
The President is covering his buddy Holder, and himself, because DoJ, White House, etc., fingerprints are all over this operation.
I doubt anything of any significance will happen. Contempt vote? Perhaps. If Holder gets any jail time, I'm sure Obama will pardon him. lol. If they hadn't been caught, I have no doubt that assault weapons would already have been banned. And I still hear INGOers say Obama isn't anti-second amendment. Wake up.
The DoJ cover story is that they approved these straw purchases (which is illegal, period) so that they could trace the guns and see where they were going. They didn't put any kind of tracking, tracing, etc. hardware on these firearms and I guess they were planning on walking down to Mexico and going into the cartel's compounds to check the serial numbers and then...AHA! Gotcha! ...then...United States Federal agents arrest Mexicans in Mexico, where they have no jurisdiction, for legally (on their end, because the US DoJ approved the straw purchases, which means they filled out the legal paperwork) purchasing firearms. Does that pass the smell test? On any level?
No, their goal was always to trample on our rights. This administration does not want us armed, at the cost of thousands of other people's lives. Why?
Does it really matter? I'm asking becuase the only 2 scandals I recall I was a little boy (Iran Contra and Billy's Monica issue) and in both of those I don't think anyone went to jail or a president was removed from office. Granted no one died in those right? Have we had a scandal where people had died becuase of the issue at hand (at the fed level) and the top person goes to jail?
The only one I can think of is the gov of IL going to jail over the semi license issue. In which you could buy a semi liecense illegally, and one of those truck drivers crashed and killed a family and that investigation results in the gov going to jail.
The only one I can think of is the gov of IL going to jail over the semi license issue. In which you could buy a semi liecense illegally, and one of those truck drivers crashed and killed a family and that investigation results in the gov going to jail.
Who said it was okay when Bush did it? What audience do you think you're making a point to? I don't recall anybody crying foul for that hypocrisy.
But this hypocrisy, yeah, I'm gonna complain.
http://youtu.be/bpwYh9TD6Nc
It matters in the sense that we should be aware that our government wants to disarm us so bad, that they are willing to give those guns which they want to ban from us, over to insanely violent Mexican cartels, who used them to kill thousands of people, as an excuse to ban said weapons.
They arm the enemy, and disarm us? That speaks volumes, in my opinion. That's all that matters to me.
It's because he can't just come in and comment about the specific content of any given thread without invoking the whole "well they did it too" thing.
Just for once I would like to see his specific thoughts about the actual content of the topic.
That part I understand but my "does it matter" is more of is there every any punishment for those at the very top when things like this occurs? The only example I know of is the former IL governor who is servering time and even when his wife passed away this year he was NOT granted time away from the prison to go to the funeral. So he ended up missing it.
Not that I'm aware of. There is always some "expendable" peon near the bottom who ends up taking the fall. This time it was going to be the US gun shops near the border, but that fell through when the whistle blowers let us all know what was really going on, so I'm not sure what is going to happen. I am of the negative opinion that it doesn't matter. No one up that high is going to jail for this. Fast and Furious will end up being a line item in the second American DoI.
"___For spending the American people's tax dollars in operation Fast and Furious in an attempt to disarm the American people___"
What happened to transparency? I thought this was going to be the most transparent president we had ever had. Can't see his school records. Can't find his birth certificate. Can't see the documents from "Fast and Furious". Where's the transparency?
When did this become about banning guns?
Is that just the kooky right brain of gun ownership thinking everything is about banning guns?
What is this about? Banning guns? Or breaking rules to catch Mexicans?
Let me ask this.. what does CONGRESS think it is about?
Banning Guns? Or Breaking Laws?
One smacks of conspiracy theory, the other, is more believable.
Is that just the kooky right brain of gun ownership thinking everything is about banning guns?
What is this about? Banning guns? Or breaking rules to catch Mexicans?
Let me ask this.. what does CONGRESS think it is about?
Banning Guns? Or Breaking Laws?
One smacks of conspiracy theory, the other, is more believable.
I think it's more about doing something stupid, probably illegal, and then possibly trying to cover it up.
Kirk Freeman
Grandmaster
Obama Administration surrenders "but, but Bush did it too" Defense.
Holder withdraws claim Bush's AG knew about gunwalking | The Daily Caller
Holder withdraws claim Bush's AG knew about gunwalking | The Daily Caller
