out in the woods and look wtf happend!!!1

[tradertator]

Wow, that really sucks. I've got a couple of hawks now from him, hope they hold up a little better than that. He seems like a decent guy, so my guess is he'll make it right.

Just to add, those Fiskars machete things are awesome. I have the Gerber version and have beat the living hell out of it.

 

[bobbystoney]

Wow! That sucks.

Great pics though.

 

[bobbystoney]

Well. I'm disappointed, after seeing the thread title, I was hoping to see a Busse.

I'll pretend I didn't read that.

 

[paddling_man]

Holy crap, man. Glad that was just a limited test run rather than needing to to make survival shelter/fire. Like they say, I guess: Two is one, one is none. (I'll avoid the great temptation to bring the name into the pun. )

Good luck with the warranty.

 

[M67]

Yeah, that's a pretty big WTF

Well. I'm disappointed, after seeing the thread title, I was hoping to see a Busse.

And I was hoping to see an ESEE, so I guess both of us are a little dissapointed

 

[GREEN607]

Yea, the metal inside the break sure don't look at all 'right', to me.

I could be mistaken (that happens alot )..... but that looks like it may have been some Hickory wood you go into chopping. And that is some real hard* wood!

* So 'kudos' to your other choppers!!!

 

[MerKWorK]

Cold reeks havoc on blades! And looks like your a great father!!!

 

[whiteman]

Looks like the forge wasnt getting up to temp that day???

Love the pics. You cant go wrong with spending time with family in the woods.

 

[glockednlocked]

Great outing and as others said bravo for being a great dad. As for the hawk well fuggels I bought a warhawk from 2hawks at the 1500 (that guy must have outfitted half of ingo I am sure he will make it right but still very concerning keep us updated.

 

[Squib]

It is a definate bummer on the hawk. But, the day outside with your daughter is goingto be with you the rest of your life. She is a lucky young lady.

 

[grunt soldier]

It is a definate bummer on the hawk. But, the day outside with your daughter is goingto be with you the rest of your life. She is a lucky young lady.

naw I'm the lucky one. she is a great kid and the day out with her makes any broken blade worth it.

2hawks did have a great show lol and I'm sure he will make it right. hopefully I'll know soon what's going to happen with it.


thanks for all the comments guys. I appreciate you checking out the thread.

 

[Clay]

thats just a typical catastrophic failure for steel. Somewhere there is a crack or imperfection on the outside of the metal.

If you can get a GOOD large macro closeup of the steel, I can probably tell you where the initial failure point is, and what caused it.

 

[grunt soldier]

thats just a typical catastrophic failure for steel. Somewhere there is a crack or imperfection on the outside of the metal.

If you can get a GOOD large macro closeup of the steel, I can probably tell you where the initial failure point is, and what caused it.

as in the steel was just bad or that I did something wrong? I'll try to get a close up but all I have is the Iphone.

 

[grunt soldier]

ok I tried multiple shots and can not get a good close up to come out.

 

[Clay]

no, as in there was a crack in the steel somewhere, and with you beating on it, the crack grows and eventually it will grow far enough it completely brakes. The crack could have come from anything.

Could also be a heat treat issue, but then were are still talking about micro cracks internally.

 

[jsx1043]

Looks like a good time grunt - and a lot less blood than the last outing! It's always good to get the munchkins out. I'm working on getting a daybag set up for my 6 year old so we can get out.

Sorry about the 2Hawks, but what is this thing?

 

[Patrolman1981]

looks like a casting?

 

[grunt soldier]

Looks like a good time grunt - and a lot less blood than the last outing! It's always good to get the munchkins out. I'm working on getting a daybag set up for my 6 year old so we can get out.



Sorry about the 2Hawks, but what is this thing?

that is a jk belt hawk and it's a beast. It was a favorite among all 3 of us out there.


I read 2hawks website and all their hawks are cast heads. I'm not sure how that effects strength but I'm guessing they are not as tough.

 

[cubby]

they are called "stress risers". a micro fracture, an imperfection in the steel, a void, a corner that is too square, too steep a drop off from one point to another..... all can cause "stress risors" or point that wil fail first, and usually way before, other points on the same part or piece. there is a ton of things that can just be a "fluke".

 

[PhantomJ]

Temperature has a big effect on the chance for brittle fracture also. Here is an article that discusses it, but the gist is in the abstract.
Brittle Fracture and Impact Testing: Part One :: KEY to METALS Articles
"Abstract:
Three basic factors contribute to a brittle-cleavage type of fracture. They are
1. a triaxial state of stress,
2. a low temperature, and
3. a high strain rate or rapid rate of loading."

As you can see a pre-existing flaw and the combination of low temp and rapid load probably contributed to the failure.