Poll. Would you provide security for a MDA mom that just mocked you?

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  • Would you provide security for a MDA mom that just mocked you?


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    TheSpark

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    Honestly I don't know. If her life was being threatened then probably yes. If she was just scared of the guy then probably no. I'd probably advise her that this is an example of why she should consider carrying.
     

    John317

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    As a CC'r I would help if she hadn't noticed I was carrying. If she had already called me out for carrying most likely would not help. I carry so that I have the ability to defend my family and myself. My goal of carrying isn't to go around and try and be a hero. If she was that concerned for her safety and was already known to be anti-gun I wouldn't put it past her to have already called 911.

    If the guys causing the scene were really up to no good me going home to my wife and kid is more important to me than a complete stranger so I would not want to risk my life for her.
     

    Mr. Habib

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    I probably would, just so I could take the opportunity to inform her that I am an NRA pistol instructor and would be willing
    to offer her a free day of training at the range. After all, the scary guy with the gun might be there to save her the next time.
     

    BiscuitNaBasket

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    As a security guard / body guard ...yes. As an individual who has had insult after insult thrown at them by that group and their ilk...no. Maybe her MDA T-shirt will save her.
     

    OakRiver

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    As a security guard / body guard ...yes. As an individual who has had insult after insult thrown at them by that group and their ilk...no. Maybe her MDA T-shirt will save her.

    It's ok, I'm sure they didn't mean to continually equate lawful gun owners as murders in waiting, as #gunbullies, as #gunnuts, as ammosexuals, as needing to compensate for poor male endowment, as unfit parents, etc. etc.
     

    pudly

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    I wouldn't help her at all. Have no problem being called a dick by some on this board. Having armed guards didn't change the mind of Shannon Watts when she had her demonstration during the NRA convention. The idea that this woman would change her mind is naive.

    If such a scary incident would get her to think about carrying, my help would be irrelevant.
     

    GodFearinGunTotin

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    I probably would have walked with her. There's a part of me that would want to scold her first for her berating me and her fake outrage. There'd also be a part of me that would want to pull out my cell phone and record me asking her why she wanted me to provide her security and capturing her response for later laughs--along with an apology for her previous antics. But I probably wouldn't do that stuff. I would likely allow her to walk with me and then bid her a good day as I walked away as she got into her car.

    (Yeah, the story sounds contrived but we've had a INGO member just recently confronted with a "HE'S GOT A GUN!" panic shout out, there's stories out there about gun toters being SWATted--so, it is at least plausible).
     

    rvb

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    No need for the guy carrying to "educate" her. The incident/irony was education enough. If not, she's truely too dense for words or a lecture to matter.

    "Sorry lady, I carry for me and mine. Wouldn't want to perpetuate the idea that folks who carry are just 'cop wanna-be's.' If self preservation matters to you, go get your own carry permit." I might hang idly by and make sure nothing happens to her, but I ain't gonna be her knight in shining armor.

    I don't carry a smartphone/video camera, but if I did I might "walk her to her car" so long as on video she makes the request and the reason why (so it could end up on youtube).

    -rvb
     

    femurphy77

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    My gut reaction after reading the story is that as a person, yes I would assist her safely to her car but it would cost her a firm lecture on her hypocrisy. All the while I would have my phone set to video and audio to record the whole affair. It would be presented on YouTube with a preface of the "conversation" that took place when said dissenter witnessed the sidearm originally.

    That's the part that they just don't want to admit; when it hits the fan or has the potential to hit the fan they want one of us standing in front of them. I hate hypocrites!
     

    pudly

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    Just some questions to think about for those would word escort Ms. MDA. If things escalated, which would very possible given his aggressive/drugged condition, would it actually be worth it to you to risk being hurt or to have to deal with the legal/financial/emotional aftermath of a shooting? Do you think that she would help you in any way? Do you really want the key witness talking to police or at a potential trial to be an avowed and confrontational anti-gunner?
     
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    eldirector

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    Provide Security? No. Not my job.

    Walk a scared woman to her car if she asked? Of course. That is the gentlemanly thing to do.

    I would also gently remind her that her political position seems to be at odds with with her own personal values, and that I would hope she would behave differently in the future.

    Of course, I wasn't there, and don't know just how belligerent the woman really was. If she really was over the top, and then DEMANDED I walked her out, then a polite "Sorry ma'am, not after that episode" would have to do.
     

    rhino

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    Just a question for those would word escort Ms. MDA. If things escalated, which would very possible given his aggressive/drugged condition, would it actually be worth it to you to risk being hurt or to have to deal with the legal/financial/emotional aftermath of a shooting? Do you think that she would help you in any way? Do you really want the key witness at a potential trial to be an avowed and confrontational anti-gunner?

    Those are some excellent questions, sir.

    I don't have answers.
     

    wtburnette

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    Just some questions to think about for those would word escort Ms. MDA. If things escalated, which would very possible given his aggressive/drugged condition, would it actually be worth it to you to risk being hurt or to have to deal with the legal/financial/emotional aftermath of a shooting? Do you think that she would help you in any way? Do you really want the key witness talking to police or at a potential trial to be an avowed and confrontational anti-gunner?

    To me, most of your questions are moot. I'm going to go walk to my car anyway, so walking out with the woman in question doesn't really necessitate a much greater risk in my mind. As Mark 1911 put it, it's doing the right thing. If there are repercussions for that, so be it. If it looks like the best thing to do would be to wait in the store for the thug to leave, then I would do that and advise the woman to do the same. Seems there would be multiple ways to do the right thing and still avoid issues.
     

    OakRiver

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    That's the part that they just don't want to admit; when it hits the fan or has the potential to hit the fan they want one of us standing in front of them. I hate hypocrites!
    I underlined the important part. They do not want to stand beside us as equals, they want us to stand between them and the threat as meat shields. And when the dust settles they are back to trying to vilify us.


    Just some questions to think about for those would word escort Ms. MDA. If things escalated, which would very possible given his aggressive/drugged condition, would it actually be worth it to you to risk being hurt or to have to deal with the legal/financial/emotional aftermath of a shooting? Do you think that she would help you in any way? Do you really want the key witness talking to police or at a potential trial to be an avowed and confrontational anti-gunner?
    I'm not sure that I want to have to rely on someone hostile to substantiate my statement to the Police, and possibly testify at my trial
     

    printcraft

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    Hummmm.... Interesting.

    I can't honestly answer this one... I have a soft spot for helping people out....
    I'm not sure how I would respond, probably help out without saying a word.

    but.... I know this will come as a shock to you guys....
    I have a sarcastic streak a mile wide when it comes to people who deserve it......
    the irony of this situation might be more than I could overcome.
     

    GodFearinGunTotin

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    Hummmm.... Interesting.

    I can't honestly answer this one... I have a soft spot for helping people out....
    I'm not sure how I would respond, probably help out without saying a word.

    but.... I know this will come as a shock to you guys....
    I have a sarcastic streak a mile wide
    when it comes to people who deserve it......
    the irony of this situation might be more than I could overcome.

    NAAAAHHHHHHhhhhhhhh......
     

    GLOCKMAN23C

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    It's ok, I'm sure they didn't mean to continually equate lawful gun owners as murders in waiting, as #gunbullies, as #gunnuts, as ammosexuals, as needing to compensate for poor male endowment, as unfit parents, etc. etc.

    Ammosexual, I like that. :laugh: Does that mean I pay with ammo, or I do it with ammo? :dunno: Sorry to threadjack.

    No I wouldn't have helped her, especially after being verbally accosted. I carry for the defense of my family and myself. :twocents:
     
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