Poll. Would you provide security for a MDA mom that just mocked you?

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  • Would you provide security for a MDA mom that just mocked you?


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    Cameramonkey

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    No need for the guy carrying to "educate" her. The incident/irony was education enough. If not, she's truely too dense for words or a lecture to matter.

    "Sorry lady, I carry for me and mine. Wouldn't want to perpetuate the idea that folks who carry are just 'cop wanna-be's.' If self preservation matters to you, go get your own carry permit." I might hang idly by and make sure nothing happens to her, but I ain't gonna be her knight in shining armor.

    I don't carry a smartphone/video camera, but if I did I might "walk her to her car" so long as on video she makes the request and the reason why (so it could end up on youtube).

    -rvb

    I voted no because thats the way I lean. But it would all have to do with how insulting the lady was at first. Just like the thread several days ago about intervening in an armed robbery, there are too many variables to give a flat answer. If she was insulting and in my face, hell no. If she was polite and expressed her displeasure in a respecful way I might consider it.

    But I WOULD stick around and provide overwatch in case she didnt make it to the car unmolested. I wont abandon her, but I also wont proactively help someone who previously told me to go to hell mere minutes ago. Not. My. Job.

    Just some questions to think about for those would word escort Ms. MDA. If things escalated, which would very possible given his aggressive/drugged condition, would it actually be worth it to you to risk being hurt or to have to deal with the legal/financial/emotional aftermath of a shooting? Do you think that she would help you in any way? Do you really want the key witness talking to police or at a potential trial to be an avowed and confrontational anti-gunner?

    Yep, too much liability there. I could see her getting her panties in a wad because you had to shoot past her to stop her assailant and you endangered her life because you could have hit her instead!:rolleyes: What is they say? If you gave away free ice cream some would still complain its the wrong flavor?

    If she is that anti, my assistance isnt going to help if she already doesnt think guns are the answer to her problem. If at that moment she hasnt reconsidered like Sherri Shepherd from The View did she probably wont ever. I cant find the video but when Emily Miller was guest hosting, (author of Emily Gets Her Gun) Sherri came out and said she realized after being anti gun that when her home alarm went off it was time to get a gun because cowering in her kids room with only a wicker basket for defense made her realize the error of her ways.

    My being a nice guy isnt going to do much to sway her if by that point in time she hasnt already wrapped her head around the fact that being rabidly anti gun could be about to kill her. The best outcome I see is her thinking Im a nice guy but still wrong for carrying a scary gun. Yes, their logic is THAT messed up.
     

    femurphy77

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    Just some questions to think about for those would word escort Ms. MDA. If things escalated, which would very possible given his aggressive/drugged condition, would it actually be worth it to you to risk being hurt or to have to deal with the legal/financial/emotional aftermath of a shooting? Do you think that she would help you in any way? Do you really want the key witness talking to police or at a potential trial to be an avowed and confrontational anti-gunner?

    Remove the anti-gunner part; now let's rephrase the hypothetical. A drunk or drug crazed psychopath is attacking someone while you are getting gas, do you calmly fill up and drive off or do you attempt to help another human being in obvious danger?
     

    Bluejeeper

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    Remove the anti-gunner part; now let's rephrase the hypothetical. A drunk or drug crazed psychopath is attacking someone while you are getting gas, do you calmly fill up and drive off or do you attempt to help another human being in obvious danger?

    According to some of the "what if" threads lately, that is exactly what quite a few people would do because it does not directly threaten them or their family. What ever gets you home at night right?

    Oh wait...that's a JBT thing....

    Oh snap.
     

    pudly

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    Remove the anti-gunner part; now let's rephrase the hypothetical. A drunk or drug crazed psychopath is attacking someone while you are getting gas, do you calmly fill up and drive off or do you attempt to help another human being in obvious danger?

    Since you didn't bother to answer any of my questions, you don't really think I owe any on yours, do you? At least mine was related to the OP.
     

    eric001

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    After being verbally accosted by a person, would I then proceed to be their bodyguard for free? Nope. I'm not putting myself into danger on behalf of someone who demeans me for the very reason she'd be asking me to do so. Too much irony there for me.

    I would, however, offer to call the police for her if her situation deteriorated precipitously.

    Only if I felt her life was literally in danger would I intervene with force, deadly or otherwise...and I'd be praying that by that time, multiple people would be recording events so that her MDA-tainted testimony wouldn't be relevant if things ended up in court.
     

    shibumiseeker

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    I'd offer to call 911 for her, because, you know, cops will protect her...

    Seriously, without watching, or intending to watch the video, for me it depends on the situation. If she were in genuine danger then I would help help her escape the danger to the best I can without placing myself in danger. If she was just nervous or afraid then as far as I am concerned she's on her own because I sorta lost my appetite for helping people who refuse to try to help themselves first but expect me to bail them out when they get in trouble they could easily prevent. Spent much of my life doing that. Just like I won't let my neighbor starve during a disaster but I am not going to lend him my spare generator to keep his fridge running after he mocked me for having a generator in the first place. (the latter is fictional, I don't have neighbors this far out in the sticks)
     

    slowG

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    I don't think it has anything to do with firearms. She really couldn't care less. She wants to go down in history and enjoy the popularity and benefits from her actions.
     

    Mgderf

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    "I may not agree with what you have to say, but I will defend with my life your right to say it". -author unknown

    Yes, I would have provided security, while explaining my point of view,
    "Your fears do not trump my rights".
     

    cobber

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    I understand the nay-sayers completely, but getting one MDA-oid to recant on video as the price of a walk of shame might be well worth it to expose the hypocrisy of the mind-set.

    That being said, I seriously doubt the hill-jack would have caused her any trouble.

    She's clearly a fearful type. Maybe life is just too darn hard for some of these folks?
     

    MCgrease08

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    I probably would have said something like, "Sorry lady. I can't walk you to your car. I'm here to sell my gun to that guy, no questions asked."
     

    actaeon277

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    "I may not agree with what you have to say, but I will defend with my life your right to say it". -author unknown

    Yes, I would have provided security, while explaining my point of view,
    "Your fears do not trump my rights".

    Nicely stated.
    And I think it was Voltaire.
     

    femurphy77

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    O.k, this is what I got:

    I wouldn't help her at all. Have no problem being called a dick by some on this board. Having armed guards didn't change the mind of Shannon Watts when she had her demonstration during the NRA convention. The idea that this woman would change her mind is naive.

    If such a scary incident would get her to think about carrying, my help would be irrelevant.


    No questions there so I'm good.

    Just some questions to think about for those would word escort Ms. MDA. If things escalated, which would very possible given his aggressive/drugged condition, would it actually be worth it to you to risk being hurt or to have to deal with the legal/financial/emotional aftermath of a shooting? Do you think that she would help you in any way? Do you really want the key witness talking to police or at a potential trial to be an avowed and confrontational anti-gunner?

    I realize it doesn't spell out yes or no but I believe my response below answers all of your questions but to keep it simple, saving another person from potentially fatal harm isn't something I would take the time to analyze all of the possible outcomes for so yes I would help anyone that was in danger that I was capable of helping "if things escalated". It's what you do because it's the right thing to do, no let me rephrase that, it's what I would do because it's the right thing to do. Everyone has different rules that they live by, one of mine isn't standing by while someone is taken advantage of just because I don't agree with their politics. But hey I've been called strange and worse before!:laugh:

    Remove the anti-gunner part; now let's rephrase the hypothetical. A drunk or drug crazed psychopath is attacking someone while you are getting gas, do you calmly fill up and drive off or do you attempt to help another human being in obvious danger?

    Since you didn't bother to answer any of my questions, you don't really think I owe any on yours, do you? At least mine was related to the OP.

    Thought we were both talking about the same thing but:dunno:

    Sorry didn't realize you had asked ME any questions, I'll go back and re-read everything and get right back to you.

    And my question was rhetorical, you've answered it the way that you feel comfortable with and I probably couldn't care less one way or the other!:patriot:
     
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    OakRiver

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    Ammosexual, I like that. :laugh: Does that mean I pay with ammo, or I do it with ammo? :dunno: Sorry to threadjack.

    No I wouldn't have helped her, especially after being verbally accosted. I carry for the defense of my family and myself. :twocents:
    Like every weak, lazy, intellectually dishonest slur I'm sure it means that gun owners get aroused by their firearms because reasons
     
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