Rock River and Springfield Armory sold out our neighbors in Illinois.

[2A_Tom]

Post on the you tube RRA and SA reviews.

 

[BigMoose]

Has anyone actually sent an e-mail to either company.

They need to be assailed with e-mails and pounded back into shape.

the SAI Facebook page is under heavy siege and assault. They had to disable ratings as they fell from 4.5 to 1 and turn off visitor messages, but the replys to thier posts are salty as heck.

RRA doesn't have a Facebook page.... weeeird.

 

[2A_Tom]

NRA ILA article is silent on SA/RRA colusion.

https://www.nraila.org/articles/201...passes-legislation-that-will-close-gun-stores

I am a Life member and love the NRA but we need to find out where they stand. Ask them to prove that are in it for the people and not the deep pocket manufacturers, like the anti's say.

 

[churchmouse]

the SAI Facebook page is under heavy siege and assault. They had to disable ratings as they fell from 4.5 to 1 and turn off visitor messages, but the replys to thier posts are salty as heck.

RRA doesn't have a Facebook page.... weeeird.

I just went over there and yes they are getting no less than they deserve.
They need to know we are watching. Listening. Responding.

 

[Slapstick]

There may be hope for Rock River. I guess they were just sending money and not paying attention to what the IFMA was doing.

Springfield and Rock River Illinois Sell-Out: Picking up the Pieces - The Truth About Guns

I'm calling BS on on Chuck Larson's comment concerning RRA. You don't send large sums of money to a lobbyist and not know what they lobbying for, especially when it come to a bill like SB-1657 that affects the very foundation of your business. I'm sure he's appalled, appalled he got caught selling out small dealers and gun owners in IL.

 

[Slapstick]

the SAI Facebook page is under heavy siege and assault. They had to disable ratings as they fell from 4.5 to 1 and turn off visitor messages, but the replys to thier posts are salty as heck.

RRA doesn't have a Facebook page.... weeeird.

RRA's facebook page https://www.facebook.com/pages/Rock-River-Arms/122829987773366 The comments aren't too kind.

 

[KLB]

RRA's facebook page https://www.facebook.com/pages/Rock-River-Arms/122829987773366 The comments aren't too kind.

It's unofficial, so they probably won't even really notice.

 

[BiscuitsandGravy]

I'm calling BS on on Chuck Larson's comment concerning RRA. You don't send large sums of money to a lobbyist and not know what they lobbying for, especially when it come to a bill like SB-1657 that affects the very foundation of your business. I'm sure he's appalled, appalled he got caught selling out small dealers and gun owners in IL.

Winner. He's 'appalled' he got caught trying to fix the system for his own skin and screw his own dealers and customers.

Double- BS. They knew exactly what they were sending $50,000 each for.

SHAME.

 

[BigMoose]

The RRA Facebook page linked is just some unofficial template.

How can you run a business now and not have an official Facebook presence.

 

[Slapstick]

It's unofficial, so they probably won't even really notice.

I'm sure they have someone that keeps tabs on the unofficial page. A company would be a fool not to monitor a page, official or otherwise, if it concerns their company. Oh wait... they did sell out so I guess they proved they're fools but still I'm sure they keep an eye on it.

 

[TheDude]

A comment made by the RRA moderator on Arfcom.

RRA's owner is at NRAAM in Atlanta, where he is meeting with a number of people about this. While many of the necessary people are in Atlanta, some are not which is complicating things.
RRA has been opposed to this bill (and earlier bills prior to it for more than a decade) and is still in 100% opposition to it. Both our exemption and the change in our lobbyist's position from "opposed" to "no position" were surprises to us. We found out after many of you, and have been trying to make sense of it since.
A statement will be forthcoming as soon as it is possible to make one that is accurate and complete. It may still come out today.
Thank you all for your consideration and to the many who have been willing to give us the benefit of the doubt.
Steve/RRA

 

[KLB]

A comment made by the RRA moderator on Arfcom.

RRA's owner is at NRAAM in Atlanta, where he is meeting with a number of people about this. While many of the necessary people are in Atlanta, some are not which is complicating things.
RRA has been opposed to this bill (and earlier bills prior to it for more than a decade) and is still in 100% opposition to it. Both our exemption and the change in our lobbyist's position from "opposed" to "no position" were surprises to us. We found out after many of you, and have been trying to make sense of it since.
A statement will be forthcoming as soon as it is possible to make one that is accurate and complete. It may still come out today.
Thank you all for your consideration and to the many who have been willing to give us the benefit of the doubt.
Steve/RRA

Sounds like they are smarter than Springfield

 

[Tyler-The-Piker]

sucks all around. I feel for my IL gun friends. It'd be nice if they had some fellow 2A adversaries...I guess they're dwindling more and more each day...

 

[Tyler-The-Piker]

Winner. He's 'appalled' he got caught trying to fix the system for his own skin and screw his own dealers and customers.

Double- BS. They knew exactly what they were sending $50,000 each for.

SHAME.

Misquoted. Wasnt me saying b.s. to Larson's statement

 

[Woobie]

So RRA is surprised. Let's see them put their money where their mouth is and petition to have their exemption removed from the bill.




I won't be holding my breath.

 

[Phase2]

Stolen from Facebook:

Just announced-
New pricing on the Springfield Armory XD-E, only 30 pieces of silver.

 

[AngryRooster]

Haven't bought a Springfield since they lied to us during the XDS recall.

 

[Cameramonkey]

Has anyone actually sent an e-mail to either company.

They need to be assailed with e-mails and pounded back into shape.

I posted a response to Guy's post and heavily tagged SA in it pointing out I will never buy a new SA product if I ever buy one and will stick to used inventory only so as not to contribute any more to their bottom line. (Sorry, if I want a M1A, Fulton STARTS at about 2.5x my budget )

I did see several comments on the SA page that they are deleting the negative comments like crazy. Unfortunately they dont appear to be able to keep up. About 80% of their posts contain a good number of negative comments. If they want to contain this, they are going to have to completely turn off ALL comments for a while.

Stolen from Facebook:

Just announced-
New pricing on the Springfield Armory XD-E, only 30 pieces of silver.

In my post above I told them to not trip over their sandals picking up the 30 pieces and referenced Matthew 26:14-16. Glad to see I wasnt the only one that made the reference, because it is what they are.

 

[actaeon277]

 

[churchmouse]

Haven't bought a Springfield since they lied to us during the XDS recall.

From what I am seeing SA does not even really care.
I have been one of their biggest supporters of the 1911 offerings. That is done as to new pieces. No more. Ever. No matter what they do now.
I am sure my change of heart will not even be noticed but if more of us turn our backs it will be.