The Open Carry Shotgun Thread

[NateIU10]

I trust the NRA about as far as Gary Coleman can throw them.


I hate to bug Kirk. He provides so much free advice to dozens of gun boards.

It's not abut trusting the NRA, those pamphlets are just the states laws, all in one place to clear it up for people. That is all.

 

[Steelman]

It's not abut trusting the NRA, those pamphlets are just the states laws, all in one place to clear it up for people. That is all.

Paging Kirk Freeman.

It's an optional page.

 

[Soundslikejosh]

Well I didn't bother to do the foot work, but at the end of the NRA's summarization of the IN state laws, they provide references to all the ICs they used, and on the IN.gov site there is a little code finder thing on the bottom left, you could semi-easily double check their info/interpretation. I have wondered about their synopsis before, and it's good that the list the sources so you can check them.

 

[rhino]

I'm pretty damn sure that carrying an uncased loaded shotgun in the passenger seat of my Japanese sissy car is illegal.

<SNIP>

I've been wrong once before.

Better add one to your list. You're wrong again.

 

[Steelman]

Better add one to your list. You're wrong again.

Are you willing to pony up the cash for my legal defense?

 

[Soundslikejosh]

The purple pachyderm has spoken!

 

[NateIU10]

Better add one to your list. You're wrong again.

The purple pachyderm has spoken!

 

[NateIU10]

Are you willing to pony up the cash for my legal defense?

Yes. If it is a charge of Having a Long-gun loaded in a car, and not some DTP, negligence or some other convoluted charge, I will forgo my next semester at school and pay your legal defense out of my college loan.

 

[Steelman]

Just be cool for now. When I hear it from an actual lawyer (unless Rhino is a lawyer - i dont know him) , then you can celebrate.


Said lawyer will also have to be willing to open carry a loaded rifle/shotgun in a public place. If it's not illegal why isn't EVERYONE (or at least someone) carrying their shotgun/rifle in a public setting.

 

[rhino]

Legal advice you get on internet is worth exactly what you pay for it. I'm definitely not a lawyer (and I did not spend last night at Holiday Inn Express either), but I have spent quite a bit of time studying the laws pertaining to firearms in Indiana over the last 14 years. Plus I talk to Kirk whenever I can.

Given that, I happen to know that:

1. The Indiana Code is silent on the transport and possession of long guns, whether loaded or not. The Indiana License to Carry Handgun pertains only to handguns, not long guns.
2. If there is no law specifically making something illegal, it is not illegal (which may seem redundant). You can't be charged with breaking a law that does not exist (yet).
3. The closest thing to a law barring the carry of a loaded long gun exists in the DNR Administrative Regulations. If you are hunting (and only if you are hunting), and you are operating an offroad vehicle, then your long gun must be unloaded.

 

[NateIU10]

Just be cool for now. When I hear it from an actual lawyer (unless Rhino is a lawyer - i dont know him) , then you can celebrate.


Said lawyer will also have to be willing to open carry a loaded rifle/shotgun in a public place. If it's not illegal why isn't EVERYONE (or at least someone) carrying their shotgun/rifle in a public setting.

Ok, I see you'll hold out for the professional opinion, I respect that

Also though, just because something is legal, doesn't mean it is smart or that you won't get hassled for it. I'm not gonna walk around Downtown indy in a tac vest and strap on my AR over my back, but if I had a car at school I'd have no problem keeping an AR in their for SHTF. :do2:

Just wondering also, have you looked for a law on it? I just read them all and none addressed it, so therefore it is legal. And no, not a lawyer, just a well-read boy who plans on going to law school after business school. We'll see what a professional says though.

 

[Soundslikejosh]

I'd believe him, he has a tusk horn thingy

 

[NateIU10]

I'd believe him, he has a tusk horn thingy

That's not a tusk. His brain got soooo big his skull had to expand to fit all the excess

 

[Steelman]

Legal advice you get on internet is worth exactly what you pay for it. I'm definitely not a lawyer (and I did not spend last night at Holiday Inn Express either), but I have spent quite a bit of time studying the laws pertaining to firearms in Indiana over the last 14 years. Plus I talk to Kirk whenever I can.

Given that, I happen to know that:

1. The Indiana Code is silent on the transport and possession of long guns, whether loaded or not. The Indiana License to Carry Handgun pertains only to handguns, not long guns.
2. If there is no law specifically making something illegal, it is not illegal (which may seem redundant). You can't be charged with breaking a law that does not exist (yet).
3. The closest thing to a law barring the carry of a loaded long gun exists in the DNR Administrative Regulations. If you are hunting (and only if you are hunting), and you are operating an offroad vehicle, then your long gun must be unloaded.

I really, truly and honestly hope I'm wrong.


There's also no law (that has been found) requiring private citizens to file tax returns, but we all still do. Thats another thread!

 

[NateIU10]

I really, truly and honestly hope I'm wrong.


There's also no law (that has been found) requiring private citizens to file tax returns, but we all still do. Thats another thread!

There are several State and Federal laws that require the filing of returns...

 

[Steelman]

There are several State and Federal laws that require the filing of returns...

New thread in the "break room"

 

[rhino]

There are several State and Federal laws that require the filing of returns...

You only have to file if you owe money. People with no income have no obligation to file a tax return.

 

[Episcopus]

Here is the Indiana Criminal Code, go ahead and read it until you find a law against carrying a long gun.

Indiana Code TITLE 35 Table of Contents

 

[4sarge]

Legal advice you get on internet is worth exactly what you pay for it. I'm definitely not a lawyer (and I did not spend last night at Holiday Inn Express either), but I have spent quite a bit of time studying the laws pertaining to firearms in Indiana over the last 14 years. Plus I talk to Kirk whenever I can.

Given that, I happen to know that:

1. The Indiana Code is silent on the transport and possession of long guns, whether loaded or not. The Indiana License to Carry Handgun pertains only to handguns, not long guns.
2. If there is no law specifically making something illegal, it is not illegal (which may seem redundant). You can't be charged with breaking a law that does not exist (yet).
3. The closest thing to a law barring the carry of a loaded long gun exists in the DNR Administrative Regulations. If you are hunting (and only if you are hunting), and you are operating an off road vehicle, then your long gun must be unloaded.

, Rhino is correct. Unless you are threatening someone, pointing it at individuals or groups, creating a disturbance or putting someone in fear of bodily harm then you are probably good to go. However, that said, I would not suggest walking into a business (bank, gas station) or strolling around downtown Indy with said long gun.

Common sense (I didn't say legal) would dictate that some would call the local police and I'm sure that their panties would be bunched (rightfully so) and weapons may be drawn and just maybe a few curse words uttered . Would you go to jail, maybe, is it legal, just depends on way too many circumstances, the responding cops, the prosecutor and who the judge believes if you are arrested. Would I personally risk it, Not Without a very Good Reason :rolleyesedit:

If it's in your car or no one sees you then, well it never happened and you are good to go.

People are unaccustomed to seeing someone walk around with a long gun and with all of the crazies, perceived anti gunners, fear, or curiosity would dictate that someone would call the police to investigate and everyone knows, once them cops are called, then anything can happen

 

[Steelman]

If we are NOT free to exercise open carry of a long gun........and will face consequencesfor doing so.................thats pretty much a "law" .................no criminal code, no specific statute, but accomplishes the same thing.



Id also love to see a traffic stop with a loaded uncased FAL in plain sight/