I could be sold on a meteor as the cause for the Younger Dryas but on human civilizations prior to and during the last ice age, I am not (yet).
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The Younger/Dryas comet impact crater found...How old is civilization??
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I could be sold on a meteor as the cause for the Younger Dryas but on human civilizations prior to and during the last ice age, I am not (yet).
indiucky
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It took me awhile.....A clash between civilization and stone age people just recently resulted in a death it seems.....Just curious...How old do you believe the Sphinx is?
https://www.france24.com/en/20181121-us-tourist-killed-arrow-shooting-indian-tribe
well I've always understood the Egyptian civilization to be about 5,000 years old (prior to the death of Cleopatra). This thread is the first I've heard of the notion that its older than that. So, I don't know.
I understand the comedy in the Spanish Inquisition today but there is a great book out there dispelling the notion that Spain was any more oppressive than England or anyone else for the time period.
https://www.amazon.com/Bearing-Fals...8&qid=1542816280&sr=8-4&keywords=Rodney+Stark
Most that were executed in Spain were multiple offenders and Spain was at war with the English and Dutch at the time and a lot of what we think of the Spanish Inquisition today comes from war propaganda.
Pretty amazing stuff
I took a course in college and it was the professor's contention that civilization (or humans forming villages and towns) that led to domestication of plants and animals as need and specialization made it economical.
I still think he was on to something. Who would spend all the time and effort to farm if you didn't have a market for your excess grain? Where would you store it? And stored grain is a depreciating asset, more so then than now.
And where the heck does corn/maize really come from? No one knows for sure even to this day. There is no wild corn, like there is every other grain. And how the heck did those people around Oaxaca really develop those thousands and thousands of different domesticated plants?
indiucky
Grandmaster
Give this a watch when you get time.....Very interesting....
[video=youtube;zSjnvlDWwrE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSjnvlDWwrE[/video]
indiucky
Grandmaster
I owe you a book....Sorry...But literally my dog ate the homework you assigned me...I feel bad dude...Laura said we'll get you another...As this pics shows he felt bad after....
indiucky
Grandmaster
“[Dialogue between Solon and an Egyptian Priest]
In the Egyptian Delta, at the head of which the river Nile divides, there is a certain district which is called the district of Sais [...] To this city came Solon, and was received there with great honour; he asked the priests who were most skilful in such matters, about antiquity, and made the discovery that neither he nor any other Hellene knew anything worth mentioning about the times of old. On one occasion, wishing to draw them on to speak of antiquity, he began to tell about the most ancient things in our part of the world-about Phoroneus, who is called "the first man," and about Niobe; and after the Deluge, of the survival of Deucalion and Pyrrha; and he traced the genealogy of their descendants, and reckoning up the dates, tried to compute how many years ago the events of which he was speaking happened. Thereupon one of the priests, who was of a very great age, said: O Solon, Solon, you Hellenes are never anything but children, and there is not an old man among you. Solon in return asked him what he meant. I mean to say, he replied, that in mind you are all young; there is no old opinion handed down among you by ancient tradition, nor any science which is hoary with age.”
― Plato, Timaeus/Critias
In the Egyptian Delta, at the head of which the river Nile divides, there is a certain district which is called the district of Sais [...] To this city came Solon, and was received there with great honour; he asked the priests who were most skilful in such matters, about antiquity, and made the discovery that neither he nor any other Hellene knew anything worth mentioning about the times of old. On one occasion, wishing to draw them on to speak of antiquity, he began to tell about the most ancient things in our part of the world-about Phoroneus, who is called "the first man," and about Niobe; and after the Deluge, of the survival of Deucalion and Pyrrha; and he traced the genealogy of their descendants, and reckoning up the dates, tried to compute how many years ago the events of which he was speaking happened. Thereupon one of the priests, who was of a very great age, said: O Solon, Solon, you Hellenes are never anything but children, and there is not an old man among you. Solon in return asked him what he meant. I mean to say, he replied, that in mind you are all young; there is no old opinion handed down among you by ancient tradition, nor any science which is hoary with age.”
― Plato, Timaeus/Critias
indiucky
Grandmaster
HISTORY FROM PLATO'S DIALOGUE "CRITIAS" that fixes the time of Atlantis' demise[edit]
However,
"Let me begin by observing first of all, that nine thousand was the sum of years which had elapsed since the war which was said to have taken place between those who dwelt outside the Pillars of Heracles and all who dwelt within them...[SUP][1][/SUP]"
Many great deluges have taken place during the nine thousand years, for that is the number of years which have elapsed since the time of which I am speaking;[SUP][2][/SUP]
The second quote is for those who said that Plato made a mistake in the 9000 year time statement. There was no mistake. It is repeated in Critias twice.
"Plato's final years were spent at the Academy and with his writing. The circumstances surrounding his death are clouded, though it is fairly certain that he died in Athens around 348 B.C.E., when he was in his early 80s.[SUP][3][/SUP]"
This year is 2017. 9000 + 348 + 2017 = 11,365 years before present
However,
"Sometime around 385 B.C.E., Plato founded a school of learning, known as the Academy, which he presided over until his death.[SUP][4][/SUP]"
Plato established the Academy and he taught there 37 years before his death in his early 80's, which could add as much as 37 years to the demise of Atlantis. So the demise of Atlantis from this could mean 11,402 years ago for the demise of Atlantis.
"The Holocene is the name given to the last 11,700 years* of the Earth's history — the time since the end of the last major glacial epoch, or 'ice age.'[SUP][5][/SUP]"
The range of error of correlation between these two dates from different sources is from 298 years to 335 years because of Plato's career range with the Academy. 11,700 - 11,365 = 335 difference, the largest error, the error is 335 / 11,700 X 100 equals roughly between 2 - 3 % or calculation yields 2.8632479% to 10 decimal places. If I were to apply statistical calculations we could rely upon mathematical correlation without question that Atlantis' demise was at the end of the most recent ice age in the Holocene Epoch.
indiucky
Grandmaster
I find it interesting that Plato's time for the demise of Atlantis is 11,700 years ago....And look what happened 11,700 years ago...
The Pleistocene Epoch is typically defined as the time period that began about 2.6 million years ago and lasted until about 11,700 years ago. The most recent Ice Age occurred then, as glaciers covered huge parts of the planet Earth.Aug 29, 2017
The Pleistocene Epoch is typically defined as the time period that began about 2.6 million years ago and lasted until about 11,700 years ago. The most recent Ice Age occurred then, as glaciers covered huge parts of the planet Earth.Aug 29, 2017
Great... more reading I’ll never finish!
Rick, you and I have similar interests. It’s amazing what we can learn with technology.
We are ignorant of where we really come from! This could explain a lot!
Well Rick, you THINK your dog ate the book. I prefer the idea that Zahi Hawass broke into your house and in a wild rage tore it pieces with his teeth and bare hands.
Some more food for thought for those interested in how an entire civilization can vanish beneath the water: The River Thames and the Rhine are the same river (as well as others). They used to run through Doggerland (the land mass that was slowly submerged by the melting glaciers and finally flooded by a tsunami to create the English Channel some 6,000 years ago and separating Great Britain from Europe).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4P9wQj6qX2I
Some more food for thought for those interested in how an entire civilization can vanish beneath the water: The River Thames and the Rhine are the same river (as well as others). They used to run through Doggerland (the land mass that was slowly submerged by the melting glaciers and finally flooded by a tsunami to create the English Channel some 6,000 years ago and separating Great Britain from Europe).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4P9wQj6qX2I
indiucky
Grandmaster
I'm still plucking bits of white paper from Saul's fur...I dozed off with it and it fell to the floor...I've got a thousand books scattered around..All of them mine but one...And guess which one he chewed up...
"I love you dad...I would never chew up one of your books...."
indiucky
Grandmaster
Because there was a great flood?
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