Well now we know for sure who the enemies of the American people are.

[Kutnupe14]

As someone who has openly called for single payer healthcare, UBI, supported Bernie in the event Trump lost nomination, and many other things, I find that quite surprising that you would accuse me of such.

I'm looking at this post, and there are a multitudes of "lolwuts" that come to mind.

 

[2A_Tom]

I think if there is anyone who is immune to claims of surrounding one's self with an echo chamber, it's yours truly. You're clear on what is meant when people say "echo chamber," right?

You do realize that that tern means yourself.

 

[Denny347]

So we agree that sitting during the Presidential State of the Union is disrespectful?
The good, the bad, and the weird at Obama's State of the Union | MSNBC
Republican Congressman Steve King of Iowa, for example, told msnbc he was heartened that many Republicans didn’t stand up to applaud Obama’s call for immigration reform, which he fiercely opposes.
On the other side of the aisle, Congressman Chris Van Hollen of Maryland took note when Republicans failed to stand up for infrastructure investments and a minimum wage hike.
“Time after time tonight you saw Republicans sitting on their hands when the president was calling on the country to move forward,” he told reporters. “I think that will be a theme that’s taken into the next election

https://www.xojane.com/issues/2016-state-of-the-union
Similarly, large swaths of the GOP chose to remain seated with increasingly bored expressions — some even appeared to nod off — during the speech, including during segments that would have provoked thunderous GOP applause had they come from a Republican president.

 

[Tombs]

So we agree that sitting during the Presidential State of the Union is disrespectful?
The good, the bad, and the weird at Obama's State of the Union | MSNBC
Republican Congressman Steve King of Iowa, for example, told msnbc he was heartened that many Republicans didn’t stand up to applaud Obama’s call for immigration reform, which he fiercely opposes.
On the other side of the aisle, Congressman Chris Van Hollen of Maryland took note when Republicans failed to stand up for infrastructure investments and a minimum wage hike.
“Time after time tonight you saw Republicans sitting on their hands when the president was calling on the country to move forward,” he told reporters. “I think that will be a theme that’s taken into the next election

https://www.xojane.com/issues/2016-state-of-the-union
Similarly, large swaths of the GOP chose to remain seated with increasingly bored expressions — some even appeared to nod off — during the speech, including during segments that would have provoked thunderous GOP applause had they come from a Republican president.

Obama started nearly every sentence of every SOTU with "I."

His ego made his addresses insufferable, little else matters.

His behavior was disrespectful, especially when he went on a tangent claiming nobody achieved anything without the help of the government, while at the same time claiming that he himself, was solely responsible for every positive thing that happened.

 

[2A_Tom]

Insuperable.

 

[Kutnupe14]

You do realize that that tern means yourself.

Uh, yeah, I do. And you, realize what's being said, right?

 

[jbombelli]

To be honest, after about the first 5 or 10 instances of standing ovations I would have stayed seated too. He constant up and down was really annoying and distracting, and nothing more than a show.

Plus years of running 10-15 miles a day on pavement wrecked my knees. They don't like that ****.

 

[Kutnupe14]

To be honest, after about the first 5 or 10 instances of standing ovations I would have stayed seated too. He constant up and down was really annoying and distracting, and nothing more than a show.

Plus years of running 10-15 miles a day on pavement wrecked my knees. They don't like that ****.

Who was chasing you, Yul Brynner?

 

[Denny347]

Obama started nearly every sentence of every SOTU with "I."

His ego made his addresses insufferable, little else matters.

His behavior was disrespectful, especially when he went on a tangent claiming nobody achieved anything without the help of the government, while at the same time claiming that he himself, was solely responsible for every positive thing that happened.

Ahhh, so it's OK for good reason...gotcha.

 

[jbombelli]

Who was chasing you, Yul Brynner?

Among others. Lol. I figured if I ever gotta run away, I better be able to run fast and far. And in those days I could.

 

[fullmetaljesus]

To be honest, after about the first 5 or 10 instances of standing ovations I would have stayed seated too. He constant up and down was really annoying and distracting, and nothing more than a show.

Plus years of running 10-15 miles a day on pavement wrecked my knees. They don't like that ****.

Was it the SOTU or Catholic mass Trump was presenting?

 

[Tombs]

Ahhh, so it's OK for good reason...gotcha.

When 75% of the nation enjoyed Trump's SOTU, I do believe the democrats are operating more out of bitterness they haven't been able to get over since losing the election. The same bitterness that shut down the government for no benefit to the American people. Any time a democrat clapped or stood up, others gave them the look of death until they stopped and sat down.

It's not really a simple matter of disagreeing or being disrespectful. It's a deep and insidious bitterness that the party hasn't been able to move past.

Need I remind you, Obama's SOTUs lasted longer. Trump's was ~5000 words to Obama's ~7000 words.

It's a stark contrast, comparing a celebration of the nation's success against one man demanding everyone's attention to tell everyone how he alone is accomplishing X, Y, and Z.

 

[Denny347]

When 75% of the nation enjoyed Trump's SOTU, I do believe the democrats are operating more out of bitterness they haven't been able to get over since losing the election. The same bitterness that shut down the government for no benefit to the American people. Any time a democrat clapped or stood up, others gave them the look of death until they stopped and sat down.

It's not really a simple matter of disagreeing or being disrespectful. It's a deep and insidious bitterness that the party hasn't been able to move past.

Need I remind you, Obama's SOTUs lasted longer. Trump's was ~5000 words to Obama's ~7000 words.

It's a stark contrast, comparing a celebration of the nation's success against one man demanding everyone's attention to tell everyone how he alone is accomplishing X, Y, and Z.

It's either disrespectful or it's not. Otherwise it is just another example of partizan politics...AGAIN.

 

[Tombs]

It's either disrespectful or it's not. Otherwise it is just another example of partizan politics...AGAIN.

I guess you're above it all, lesser of 2 evils, both parties are the same, etc.

 

[CampingJosh]

I guess you're above it all, lesser of 2 evils, both parties are the same, etc.

Whatever you have to say to avoid ever admitting any fault.

 

[Tombs]

Whatever you have to say to avoid ever admitting any fault.

Simmering everything down to the point of a popcorn movie is not a wise approach to politics.

I'm sorry the real world is more complicated than simple yes and no answers.

 

[Double T]

No, it's not.. However, using the word "steal" and using the instance to prove that Democrats "hate America," is an Appeal to Emotion Fallacy.

Taxation is theft. Stealing from one group to give to another...it's still theft.

 

[fullmetaljesus]

Taxation is theft. Stealing from one group to give to another...it's still theft.

If you think taxation is theft, I assume you are against it.
Which leads me to the question, how do you expect the gov to run and pay for things like roads, police, military, etc?

Not trying to be rude, I'm genuinely curious.

 

[Tombs]

Taxation is theft. Stealing from one group to give to another...it's still theft.

The only taxation I consider immoral is property tax, just because of the consequences of inability to pay for it means that no one in this country is technically allowed to own land.

This is fundamentally wrong.

Taxation is only theft is you are forced to remain here. To my knowledge you are choosing to remain here, and the cost of remaining here is taxes.

 

[jamil]

Not correct.

If it's only one, then it's "some" I guess.