Yeah, I'm kinda lost as to what you meant, too.
Look above, I edited to add.
Yeah, I'm kinda lost as to what you meant, too.
[FONT=&]Genesis 12:1Nowthe LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thykindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:[/FONT]
[FONT=&]2And I willmake of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great;and thou shalt be a blessing:[/FONT]
[FONT=&]3And I willbless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shallall families of the earth be blessed.[/FONT]
Well, yes, what does leaving Judea have to do with it?
John 14:6.
Is the basis of this thread the idea that Christians should want all that bad for people who do not believe that Jesus is the Messiah and Son of God?
....cause that's not what I was taight.
Somewhat back to the OP, do the charters for the Dutch West India Company and various British charters in North America give those countries a right to land in North America?
Certainly not. This thread is more about Biblical reasons Christians support Israel. I hold the belief that many Christians blindly support Israel because "something, something Jewish people are the chosen people of God," without looking in-depth. You will have those that say the creation of Israel is the fulfillment of God's covenant with Israel. It does not appear that obvious to me, and I question if that prophecy has actually even been fulfilled.
Those verses are not talking about unbelievers. They refer to Gnostics and Nicolaitans that clame to be Christian but deny the Incarnation of Christ. They teach that His earthly presence was a continuous theophany.
Unbelievers are able to come to the understanding that Jesus was virgin born, lived a sinless life, died on the cross, rose from the dead and is seated at the right hand of the father. If anyone Jew, Muslim, Hindu, Athiest, Agnostic, Gnostic, Nicolaitan or any other unbeliever accepts Christ as their personal saviour they will enjoy heaven.
But as for Kut's question...
It does not matter where Israel is, whether it is an individual or the nation, I will obey this many times repeated admonition.
Oh. Well. Never mind, then.
Something something manifest destiny.
Well simply put, it has always confused/bothered me (as a kid), how the Chosen People, denied Jesus. Am I alone in this?
Well simply put, it has always confused/bothered me (as a kid), how the Chosen People, denied Jesus. Am I alone in this?
Well simply put, it has always confused/bothered me (as a kid), how the Chosen People, denied Jesus. Am I alone in this?
Not really that shocking. Their history is full of instances of them denying God’s will for them, as is the case for most people. Humans gonna human.
Well simply put, it has always confused/bothered me (as a kid), how the Chosen People, denied Jesus. Am I alone in this?
Well simply put, it has always confused/bothered me (as a kid), how the Chosen People, denied Jesus. Am I alone in this?
All of them didn't. All of them don't.
The history of the Chosen People is rejecting God, being corrected, repenting, and following Him. Who's to say how long these cycles last?
Not really that shocking. Their history is full of instances of them denying God’s will for them, as is the case for most people. Humans gonna human.
I think there are 2 separate questions buried in that.
As a Catholic, I believe that we are a continuation of Israel/the Chosen People. The New Covenant fulfilled the Old Covenant. (Or, to Jews, just the Covenant.) So the idea of "Israel" is much greater than a group of people who share a family history in a certain area.
As for why the 1st century Jews (and those thereafter, I guess) denied Jesus as the fulfillment, I think that's a macro and micro question. Big scale, the Jewish leadership didn't believe it, so they rejected Him. Small scale, each Jew who heard Jesus had to make a personal decision about whether He was who He said He was.
It wasn't completely clear, just as it isn't completely clear now to many people.
I also support Madagascar and Lithuania's right to exist. I don't honestly see the difference here