Your position is being eliminated.

[halfmileharry]

Oh I have some advice for him but not anything I can share in here.

CBS just reported that Ben Macadoo is leaving the Giants anytime.

 

[voidsherpa]

Are all you guys engineers? You all sound like engineers.

 

[rhino]

I survived a "reorganization" of a business unit and then the sale of that business unit to another company over the last couple of years. My time is coming, probably sooner rather than later. I don't know if I'll be prepare to make the change when it happens, but I certainly won't be surprised by it.

 

[rw02kr43]

I had that happen to me 2 years ago. Right before my son's birthday. There was no warning. Just in to work on Friday for a few min then told to leave. I will never forgive them.

 

[yeahbaby]

I have been on both sides of the fence. Being told my position has been eliminated. And having to let people go. Sucks either way. My current boss is the best boss I have ever worked for. And I am hoping that will continue for the next 4 years until I retire. Like most of us I have worked for some real dbags in my career.

 

[Thor]

I can't imagine the no notice eliminations...everyone I've fired had a looong time to figure it out. If they were surprised that was on them. It would stink having to do that to someone.

 

[rhino]

I can't imagine the no notice eliminations...everyone I've fired had a looong time to figure it out. If they were surprised that was on them. It would stink having to do that to someone.

How about getting a conference call invitation via Outlook in the morning, then while you're on the call learning that you're not laid off (but you had no idea anything was happening), people are going around to desks with boxes escorting the "chosen" out of the building.

 

[JollyMon]

Working for a large company, think fortune 100, I have survived many of these downsizing. They suck, you lose friends.

The latest is currently going on and we are waiting to see what pans out. Luckily I have a go forward job title.

its sucks that people have to lose there jobs especially when they have been good loyal employees for 20+ years. And basically some random joe management has some great idea and causes 100’s of people to be unemployed

 

[churchmouse]

How about getting a conference call invitation via Outlook in the morning, then while you're on the call learning that you're not laid off (but you had no idea anything was happening), people are going around to desks with boxes escorting the "chosen" out of the building.

When the spouse decided to leave her position at the bank and go into Mortgage she sat down with her boss to turn in her notice.
When she was done her boss instructed her to sit tight. Boss left and came back with security to walk her to her desk and then out the door.
19 years of loyal employment.

 

[Vigilant]

When the spouse decided to leave her position at the bank and go into Mortgage she sat down with her boss to turn in her notice.
When she was done her boss instructed her to sit tight. Boss left and came back with security to walk her to her desk and then out the door.
19 years of loyal employment.

Believe it or not, it wasn't an affront to your wife, that's the way the world is today. She "could have" stolen trade secrets, client lists, personal info, etc. It's the litigious society, and them damned lawyers/risk management /insurance agencies that cause this to be the norm today.

 

[churchmouse]

Believe it or not, it wasn't an affront to your wife, that's the way the world is today. She "could have" stolen trade secrets, client lists, personal info, etc. It's the litigious society, and them damned lawyers/risk management /insurance agencies that cause this to be the norm today.

I understand but it was hurtful. She is not that person and they know it or knew it. But you are right.

 

[rhino]

I find the whole "walked to the door by security" both irritating and amusing at the same time. If someone wanted to appropriate data or equipment, they had essentially unlimited opportunities previously.

 

[Dr.Midnight]

I find the whole "walked to the door by security" both irritating and amusing at the same time. If someone wanted to appropriate data or equipment, they had essentially unlimited opportunities previously.

Agree. We've had a handful of people leave my company since I have been there, and I'm almost 100% sure each and every one of them took their customer list, sales history, and any other information they thought would be beneficial. This whole walk you to the door thing is just a dog and pony show.

 

[Cameramonkey]

Company I worked for was sold out to another company in another state. That made a bunch of us duplicate worker bees. The new company name went on the door so guess who got the axe? We were terminated on 10/31/15...no severance pay, no health insurance, we got paid for any vacation days we had left and they approved out unemployment. I went to an average of two interviews a week, face to face, and every one said the same thing "We'd love to hire you but we can't do anything until the first of the year." Ended up being unemployed for three months before landing a great job...one year later they sold out to another company out of state so I bailed out and got a new job before the end of summer came, and before they fired everyone....three months after I left.

If your company is "merging" and the new company name is on the door now....get ready to exit.

Getting canned in the last quarter of the year means you'll have a hard time getting back to full time work before mid January.

I like working for a good company. We absorb a LOT of smaller businesses as we grow. We try to keep everyone at the new location. An office worker or two may get reassigned (No more need for a local HR person for instance) but we only cut them loose if they choose not to play ball by the new rules. "Yes, I KNOW thats the way you have done it for the past 15 years. But it is not our way. You will do it this way now. " (and it was the wrong way to do it anyway many times)

I find the whole "walked to the door by security" both irritating and amusing at the same time. If someone wanted to appropriate data or equipment, they had essentially unlimited opportunities previously.

No doubt. By the time you give notice, you would have done whatever you wanted before. Its the firings that you gotta watch out for.

One day a manager walked into his subordinate's office and sat down in front of the desk and chatted. The guy was working on the PC as he entered, and didnt really stop working as the boss started talking. The boss explained how it sucked that they had to let him go, he hated to do it, etc. The worker handled it well. Said he understood and felt bad for his boss as he calmly continued to "work" on his computer.

After he left we found a crap ton of stuff missing on his PC and the server. Poof! Deleted. The psychopath behind the desk was raging inside and smiling outwardly as he destroyed things while the boss was talking. Thank God for backups because I was able to restore everything importantl.

 

[rkwhyte2]

I worked for a software company out in California and one day we all were called to a meeting. The CEO said look around and you will see that some of your co workers aren't here. They were in other meetings being let go when those folks got back to there desks they found the IT staff had removed the keyboards. That whole thing was horrible and people walked around the hallways for weeks afterwards just lost. Management asked what could we have done differently and we all pretty much said just let us know it is coming. About a year later they did. I volunteered to go in the 2nd wave(It was time). I got 3 months severance with full benefits and collected unemployment at the same time. That was when I moved the family back to Indiana.

 

[voidsherpa]

Believe it or not, it wasn't an affront to your wife, that's the way the world is today. She "could have" stolen trade secrets, client lists, personal info, etc. It's the litigious society, and them damned lawyers/risk management /insurance agencies that cause this to be the norm today.

Yeah because one clearly wouldn't do that ahead of time... I get it, they dont want one poison apple to sit in the bushel for 2 weeks. There is an utter lack of honor and respect these days in our society. To hell with it being the norm, it is wrong.

 

[Vigilant]

Yeah because one clearly wouldn't do that ahead of time... I get it, they dont want one poison apple to sit in the bushel for 2 weeks. There is an utter lack of honor and respect these days in our society. To hell with it being the norm, it is wrong.

It started somewhere? You’ve read in this thread people taking client lists and numbers, etc.? Do you or have you owned a business, since you speak about honor? If you’ve owned a business, you should be able to relate to the fact you usually cannot allow a soon to be released employee free reign for the “two weeks”. When I’ve been given two weeks from an employee, I look at their work history, and decide whether they get two weeks paid, or nothing, but they are not free to take two weeks to download client history, numbers, or anything else. It sucks, but life does too. Personally, my word is my bond, but that doesn’t get me a loan for my business, so “honor” and today’s employer/employee relationships have less to do with honor, and more about what is written.

 

[Vigilant]

Again, on the “other side”, when business is slow for me, and I don’t have enough billable hours for everyone’s 40, not a single one has stepped up and offered to take less? As an owner, I’ve learned a LOT about what my guys do, enough so, that when hours are slim, and my employees look elsewhere(read as doing something else for someone else) I personally, am able to service my clients.

 

[voidsherpa]

Do you or have you owned a business, since you speak about honor? If you’ve owned a business, you should be able to relate to the fact you usually cannot allow a soon to be released employee free reign for the “two weeks”.

Self employed small business owner here. If somebody wanted to take their client list, and lets me real, in certain situations they should have every right too, it'd be done well before they put in their two weeks. They are giving you 2 weeks out of respect for your company and to help facilitate a smooth transition in hopes that you will provide positive remarks on their resume.

Personally, my word is my bond, but that doesn’t get me a loan for my business, so “honor” and today’s employer/employee relationships have less to do with honor, and more about what is written.

I don't understand this? Your word is your bond, but you don't hire employees of the same character standing for budget reasons. That's how i'm reading this.

 

[csaws]

This is why I fight fire instead of working a regular job. My job is safe even politics doesn't affect my career, my position possibly but very unlikely.

Sorry for everyone that has had to endure this crap.