What's up with this new shooting form?

[ctbreitwieser]

I keep seeing people in magazines and online holding their rifles like this. I just started noticing it about 8 months or so ago. Is there some kind of benefit for shooting like this? And where did they learn this from?

Sorry if the pic doesnt work, this was my first attempt at posting a pic.

Edit: The guy in the pic is Travis from Magpul Ind., are they teaching that in their shooting courses?

 

[NIFT]

Jerry Miculek is, likely, the most well-known shooter employing this technique. According to him, the further the support hand can be placed out on the fore end, the better, especially when having to swing the gun right/left to engage multiple targets quickly.

 

[whocares]

I agree with prior post as probably being correct.

This dude in my uneducated view, appears to be struggling with the placement of his red dot

 

[thompal]

I keep seeing people in magazines and online holding their rifles like this. I just started noticing it about 8 months or so ago. Is there some kind of benefit for shooting like this? And where did they learn this from?

Sorry if the pic doesnt work, this was my first attempt at posting a pic.

Edit: The guy in the pic is Travis from Magpul Ind., are they teaching that in their shooting courses?

It's the new trend. I had to ask about it a few months ago myself. Apparently this is something new that works on the theory that you hold the rifle this way, don't use a sling, and it's faster to swing the barrel around.

It's VERY non-intuitive for me. I've tried it, and it feels absolutely weird to me, and for me, requires MUCH larger upper body movements, which I still don't understand how it's supposed to be faster.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

The gun culture is not immune from fashion trends. It's the new hotness.

Now, go grow a goatee and put on a dirty baseball cap and try it out and see if you like it.

Is there some kind of benefit for shooting like this?

What's the first rule? Right, look cool.

And where did they learn this from?

The Internet.

 

[CalebToNowhere]

Maybe he gets more head shots that way on Counter Strike...

 

[hooky]

I watched a guy explain it on one show or anther. His main point was that with your arm extended so far out on the forend, you were pulling it back into your shoulder. This allowed a lighter grip and in turn allowed a relaxed press of the trigger. Looks uncomfortable to me.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Looks uncomfortable to me.

There's no crying in baseball and there's no comfort in fashion.

 

[Cam]

Maybe he gets more head shots that way on Counter Strike...

That's why I bought my AR15, its my favorite gun in the game. I'm not sure if I got the real thing though, it doesn't shoot 357Sig.

 

[thompal]

I watched a guy explain it on one show or anther. His main point was that with your arm extended so far out on the forend, you were pulling it back into your shoulder. This allowed a lighter grip and in turn allowed a relaxed press of the trigger. Looks uncomfortable to me.

I was always taught to pull back with my left hand on the forend using the old-fashioned style of hold, along with proper use of a sling.

I'd not want to try this new fancy style in front of any of the people who taught me how to shoot. I'd either suffer endless ridicule, or a backhand to the side of the head. Of course, they were both Marines, so they were only concerned with bullets on target, not style.

I think the jarheads would be much better off if they'd be a lot more stylish and trendy.

 

[Titanium_Frost]

It works to reduce muzzle rise in competition where you do not want to use a sling like in multigun where you have to dump your rifle quickly and transition to a pistol.

As someone else said it is the opposite of intuative although it does work very well.

 

[sbcman]

I've tried it with my AKs. Just hook thumb and index finger around the gas tube, other three underneath. Works great! (until things heat up, then I quickly put support hand underneath forearm, where it belongs).

 

[Litlratt]

For those that are unfamiliar with this technique, you would learn far more by reading rather than posting your ignorance.
This is not for conventional type target shooting.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW1LZKJmtbw[/ame]

 

[japartridge]

For those that are unfamiliar with this technique, you would learn far more by reading rather than posting your ignorance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW1LZKJmtbw

don't you think that was a little harsh! man, it's not like the OP was asking if it was safe to run through a field with your finger on the trigger and the safety off!!

 

[hooky]

For those that are unfamiliar with this technique, you would learn far more by reading rather than posting your ignorance.
This is not for conventional type target shooting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW1LZKJmtbw

That video has nothing to do with the OP's question about why so many people are choosing to grip the forend so far out that their support arm is straight.

 

[Litlratt]

don't you think that was a little harsh! man, it's not like the OP was asking if it was safe to run through a field with your finger on the trigger and the safety off!!

Ignorance is merely a lack of knowledge. It's not like I called someone stupid.

That video has nothing to do with the OP's question about why so many people are choosing to grip the forend so far out that their support arm is straight.

Yes, it does.

 

[hooky]

Ignorance is merely a lack of knowledge. It's not like I called someone stupid.

Yes, it does.

Watching it again, I still didn't hear him say anything until the end where he mentions arms as far apart as possible. Even then, his form doesn't have his off hand clear out on the edge of the forend.

 

[Litlratt]

Watching it again, I still didn't hear him say anything until the end where he mentions arms as far apart as possible. Even then, his form doesn't have his off hand clear out on the edge of the forend.

The weak hand being farther out than a conventional stance. It has to do with transitioning from target to target.The shooter in the OP is crouching rather than standing and his shoulders are more square to the target.

 

[esrice]

I keep seeing people in magazines and online holding their rifles like this. I just started noticing it about 8 months or so ago. Is there some kind of benefit for shooting like this? And where did they learn this from?

The guy in the pic is Travis from Magpul Ind., are they teaching that in their shooting courses?

Travis Haley and Chris Costa made this offhand grip fashionable with their Art of the Tactical Carbine series of DVDs. Check them out for a full description of how and why the grip works.

Many people still don't understand that Magpul designed their AFG for this shooting style exclusively. Now everyone has an AFG and they often don't use it the way it was intended.

 

[Litlratt]

This may also assist you.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBwDCbybnCA[/ame]