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  • BehindBlueI's

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    My computer's acting spastic tonight, or I'd have been here with the snark shipment sooner.

    "They used to hang horse thieves, didn't they?"

    You're welcome.

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    mrjarrell

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    It's been a bad week for LE.


    Exactly. I saw a figure the other day, (not entirely sure of the numbers, but they could well be right) that the police in the US had killed more people in March than were killed by police in the UK in the last hundred years. That's a startling accusation, if true. Way too many people getting shot by the police in this country. And no-one keeps track of the beatings, unless a third party catches them on video.
     

    Kutnupe14

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    Exactly. I saw a figure the other day, (not entirely sure of the numbers, but they could well be right) that the police in the US had killed more people in March than were killed by police in the UK in the last hundred years. That's a startling accusation, if true. Way too many people getting shot by the police in this country. And no-one keeps track of the beatings, unless a third party catches them on video.

    Since 1945, only 256 officers have been shot (shot, not killed) in Britain. So if one is to say that US Officers are more violent than their British counterparts, it would also be fair to say the US citizens are more violent than their counterparts, as well.
     

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    Exactly. I saw a figure the other day, (not entirely sure of the numbers, but they could well be right) that the police in the US had killed more people in March than were killed by police in the UK in the last hundred years. That's a startling accusation, if true. Way too many people getting shot by the police in this country. And no-one keeps track of the beatings, unless a third party catches them on video.

    I would like to read that.
    Really, not being a jerk.

    or "scum of INGO"

    I wonder if if they take population into account.
    or compare cop killings vs civilians killed by cops by population
     

    BehindBlueI's

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    It blows my mind how the scum of INGO think it is such a joke when a guy is almost beat to death by cops no less...

    Alternate theory: The "scum of INGO" thinks its a joke that a few posters repeatedly find every incident of police misbehavior they can find and post it up. The threads themselves become the target of jokes, not the event that led to the posting.

    How well would it be received if I posted every single incident of non-police gun owners behaving badly and then had a hand full of people I could count on to pile on and make it seem endemic? Perhaps it would get tiresome to gunowners here fairly quickly? We can test it. Two accidental discharges in the past two days resulting in injury. I've got plenty of grist for the mill, and I don't even need to go further than county wide. I choose not to post such incidents unless there is something broader to be learned from them, though, nor do I point to them as part of a larger pattern or disparage gunowners at large.
     

    steveh_131

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    Alternate theory: The "scum of INGO" thinks its a joke that a few posters repeatedly find every incident of police misbehavior they can find and post it up. The threads themselves become the target of jokes, not the event that led to the posting.

    Hey now, when's the last time I made a thread about police brutality? I'm too lazy to look but it's not very often.
     

    D-Ric902

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    I would like to read that.
    Really, not being a jerk.

    or "scum of INGO"

    I wonder if if they take population into account.
    or compare cop killings vs civilians killed by cops by population


    some numbers so far but not what we were looking for exactly, but an idea

    US has 248 cops per 100,000
    320.5 million pop.

    UK 237 cops per 100,000
    64.1 million pop

    19 UK officers killed 2014

    For the source crowd;

    List of countries and dependencies by number of police officers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Civilians Killed by Police Firearms Officers in England and Wales | Citizens Report UK
    If you want to count the individual pins, go ahead. I can't find any totals.

    mrjarrell, I found yours. It was a fifth column article that I'm not gonna link too.
    No comparison per population just raw numbers, obviously slanted toward the higher population. (I read it)

    google fu still kickin'
     

    mrjarrell

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    Since 1945, only 256 officers have been shot (shot, not killed) in Britain. So if one is to say that US Officers are more violent than their British counterparts, it would also be fair to say the US citizens are more violent than their counterparts, as well.

    I'm not so sure of that. The violent crime rates in GB are reasonably high. On a per capita basis they may well be equal to the US in terms of violent crime (as usual the per 100K rate). Homicides are much lower than the US, though, (availability of weaponry is certainly a factor). Sadly, the rate of officers shot this year, in the US, seems to be up a bit, so far. Of note though is that of those US officers shot this year, many, if not most of them (the last time I looked) had been shot by fellow officers, (either in the course of training or ND's or in the commission of a crime or standoff). The sheer volume of police involved shootings in the US though is becoming troublesome. As is the shooting of unarmed people, which is either being reported more or is becoming more commonplace.
     

    XMil

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    Alternate theory: The "scum of INGO" thinks its a joke that a few posters repeatedly find every incident of police misbehavior they can find and post it up. The threads themselves become the target of jokes, not the event that led to the posting. How well would it be received if I posted every single incident of non-police gun owners behaving badly and then had a hand full of people I could count on to pile on and make it seem endemic? Perhaps it would get tiresome to gunowners here fairly quickly? We can test it. Two accidental discharges in the past two days resulting in injury. I've got plenty of grist for the mill, and I don't even need to go further than county wide. I choose not to post such incidents unless there is something broader to be learned from them, though, nor do I point to them as part of a larger pattern or disparage gunowners at large.



    Not a good comparison. LE is hired to enforce the law, so it is more egregious when they so blatantly violate it. Kind of like the old "man bites dog" story.

    Post all of the idiots doing stupid things with guns that you want. There is no way non-LE would jump to their defense, claim there's not enough evidence, or try to justify it like LE commonly do when it is their own.

    Are we ready to stop pretending there are just "a few bad apples" yet?
     

    Kutnupe14

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    I'm not so sure of that. The violent crime rates in GB are reasonably high. On a per capita basis they may well be equal to the US in terms of violent crime (as usual the per 100K rate). Homicides are much lower than the US, though, (availability of weaponry is certainly a factor). Sadly, the rate of officers shot this year, in the US, seems to be up a bit, so far. Of note though is that of those US officers shot this year, many, if not most of them (the last time I looked) had been shot by fellow officers, (either in the course of training or ND's or in the commission of a crime or standoff). The sheer volume of police involved shootings in the US though is becoming troublesome. As is the shooting of unarmed people, which is either being reported more or is becoming more commonplace.

    Not justifying it, but it would seem to reason that a society that is fairly violent, would certainly have a number of police officers that are needlessly violent as well.
     
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