The Democrat Primary Race Is Filling Up

[Dr.Midnight]

Directly targeted? I'm thinking more about rhetoric. A rhetoric used to exploit the biases of some of those in his base
Housing Discrimination
Central Park 5
Birtherism
Comments on Mexican immigrants
Calling on a complete ban of Muslims entering the country
I don't know who David Duke is
"Very fine people.... on both sides"
****hole nations
Steve Bannon
Pocahantas
Stephen Miller
the support he enjoys from the Klan and Neo-Nazi groups (i.e. "Hail Trump)
Pardon of Joe Arapio
Harriet Tubman $20
Telling American congresswomen to "go back to their countries"

 

[jamil]

Is there something in my list that is false? Or do you think I'm misrepresenting the president's intent, and that he's simply not a politician, hence why sometimes his words are "problematic."

Well, yeah. Your interpretation of the whole list is problematic.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Well, yeah. Your interpretation of the whole list is problematic.

How do you misinterpret, "No we won't let you rent this place because you are black?"

 

[Kutnupe14]

Why do you assume that every black person has TDS, and interprets or believes the press the same as you? For example, those ARE ****hole countries. Admitting the truth of that has nothing to do with race. Denying it is just either from ignorance or delusion. I disagree with not accepting any immigrants from there; they’re not all responsible for their country being a ****hole. So I’m fine with having high standards and taking in anyone who meets them, regardless of how ****ty their home country is.

Many like that. Mexicans: you didn’t correctly discern the meaning. Very fine people on both sides: you didn’t correctly discern the meaning. Even after it was revealed to you the media’s manipulation of the full context of those, you still want to believe the worst understanding of it.

No you didn't discern the meaning correctly... or you did, but you're using that plausible deniability nonsense. In a vacuum maybe. In light of everything else, there's a method to he madness.

 

[MCgrease08]

Is there something in my list that is false? Or do you think I'm misrepresenting the president's intent, and that he's simply not a politician, hence why sometimes his words are "problematic."

You know that list is . I'm not going to play your game by going through them point by point, because it won't matter, you'll just continue to parrot the media. But I will touch on one for the benefit of the rest of the class. In reference to "fine people on both sides."

I don't know how anyone can denounce racism, the KKK and white supremacists any more clearly than this (1:13). Not that it matters to Trump haters, but here it is.

[video=youtube_share;mCvwARherKI]http://youtu.be/mCvwARherKI[/video]

 

[Kutnupe14]

You know that list is . I'm not going to play your game by going through them point by point, because it won't matter, you'll just continue to parrot the media. But I will touch on one for the benefit of the rest of the class. In reference to "fine people on both sides."

I don't know how anyone can denounce racism, the KKK and white supremacists any more clearly than this (1:13). Not that it matters to Trump haters, but here it is.

[video=youtube_share;mCvwARherKI]http://youtu.be/mCvwARherKI[/video]

No, I actually don't. What I do know, is that damn near every WN, KKK, and White Supremacy group supports him.... so he must be saying something that they like. Odds are that people that fall outside of their particular demographic might not like this things.

 

[jamil]

How do you misinterpret, "No we won't let you rent this place because you are black?"

Did Trump actually say that? Was it alleged by prople who have a reason to lie? Is there some audio or video evidence?

 

[jamil]

No you didn't discern the meaning correctly... or you did, but you're using that plausible deniability nonsense. In a vacuum maybe. In light of everything else, there's a method to he madness.

Plausible deniability isn’t what I’m saying. I’m saying what the most rational interpretation is given all the information I have available.

 

[MCgrease08]

No, I actually don't. What I do know, is that damn near every WN, KKK, and White Supremacy group supports him.... so he must be saying something that they like. Odds are that people that fall outside of their particular demographic might not like this things.

Credit for consistency in your trolling.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Did Trump actually say that? Was it alleged by prople who have a reason to lie? Is there some audio or video evidence?

No, he was just sued for it. And no it was no alleged by people that had a reason to lie, as the accusers were investigators (white and black) tasked to see if the Trump's were discriminating.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Credit for consistency in your trolling.

I ain't wrong. I'd love to hear your opinion why such groups love the president so much.

 

[jamil]

No, I actually don't. What I do know, is that damn near every WN, KKK, and White Supremacy group supports him.... so he must be saying something that they like. Odds are that people that fall outside of their particular demographic might not like this things.

Faulty logic. Communists voting democrat doesn’t make democrats communist. It’s similar to “least evil”. Works the same on the other end.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Faulty logic. Communists voting democrat doesn’t make democrats communist. It’s similar to “least evil”. Works the same on the other end.

No, your logic is faulty. Communist vote Democrat, because Democrats have some policies that align with Communist thought. So to expound on that, WN's voting for Trump means.....?

 

[Expat]

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/wh...ly-regrets-voting-for-trump-amid-iran-crisis/
They are against Trump now, so what does that mean?

 

[Kutnupe14]

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/wh...ly-regrets-voting-for-trump-amid-iran-crisis/
They are against Trump now, so what does that mean?

It means he loves Iran and their culture, and wants forgiveness from them. So tell me, do you believe that?

 

[jamil]

No, he was just sued for it. And no it was no alleged by people that had a reason to lie, as the accusers were investigators (white and black) tasked to see if the Trump's were discriminating.

And? The result? He was not sued for it. The company was. In the released FBI documents most of the interviewed witnesses said there was not discrimination. Some claimed there was. The ones who claimed there was, did they provide proof other than testimony that there was? Did they have a reason to lie? I don’t know. Do you?

It comes down, not to a rationally derived belief. You believe what your intuition tells you. Intuition boils down to “I’m right because it’s me”, but then everyone else is a “me” too.

This is not evidence that Trump is a racist. And you’ve even said yourself that you don’t know if he’s a racist. Yet you act as if you do believe it. And you cite faulty logic like guilt by association.

 

[jamil]

I ain't wrong. I'd love to hear your opinion why such groups love the president so much.

Do they? Really? White nationalist organizer of unite the right, Richard Spencer, recently said he deeply regrets voting for Trump.

You should stop the guilt by association nonsense. It’s retarded.

 

[Dr.Midnight]

No, I actually don't. What I do know, is that damn near every WN, KKK, and White Supremacy group supports him.... so he must be saying something that they like. Odds are that people that fall outside of their particular demographic might not like this things.

I'm sure Trump's goal of controlling immigration aligns with those groups beliefs. It doesn't make Trump wrong or evil. This is possibly the dumbest argument I've ever seen you make.

 

[jamil]

No, your logic is faulty. Communist vote Democrat, because Democrats have some policies that align with Communist thought. So to expound on that, WN's voting for Trump means.....?

Richard Spencer, as noted above, said he regrets voting for Trump, because Trump had the Iranian guy killed. Trump’s promise to stay out if foreign affairs was a major reason the Alt Right supported Trump. It was a tangental issue of importance which does not imply a rational belief that Trump must also believe everything else the Alt Right believes.

Communists vote for Democrats because Democrats are friendly to tangental issues, like social programs. These tangental issues in common has nothing to do with the primary beliefs of radicals. Guilt by association is a logical fallacy.

 

[jamil]

I'm sure Trump's goal of controlling immigration aligns with those groups beliefs. It doesn't make Trump wrong or evil. This is possibly the dumbest argument I've ever seen you make.

It’s certainly one of the least logical arguments he’s made. Immigration is another tangental issue that Trump had in common with Alt Right/WN people. It does not rationally imply that the reasons for wanting to limit immigration are the same.