Honestly I would not mind issuing the Wilson Combat EDC X9 make the slide longer and give it a bigger grip for something like 17 rounds in the magazine. Those things run like raped apes (and the much complained about grip safety is gone on the X9). But they are way out of the .gov budget so its only a pipe dream.
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Army's new SIGs ejecting live rounds, can't handle standard ball ammo.
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Honestly I would not mind issuing the Wilson Combat EDC X9 make the slide longer and give it a bigger grip for something like 17 rounds in the magazine. Those things run like raped apes (and the much complained about grip safety is gone on the X9). But they are way out of the .gov budget so its only a pipe dream.
I agree with most of what has been said in this thread: not properly vetted, corners cut on costs and testing, SIG not making much money on the deal, etc., but I think what SIG was hoping to do was to capitalize on the contract with the public. "If SIG won the Army contract, they must be the best..."
That is all going to backfire on them if they get too much bad publicity. Shame really...
They will fix it and get it right however. I am 100% confident in that, but they *should* have got it right the first time.
That is all going to backfire on them if they get too much bad publicity. Shame really...
They will fix it and get it right however. I am 100% confident in that, but they *should* have got it right the first time.
How do you release a pistol for public use without testing it with milsurp ball ammo first? That's dumb. But doing that when submitting a pistol for a military trial is insane.
I'm trying to figure out what would cause this issue. And for the life of me, I can't see how this isn't magazine related. But I'm not a gunsmith. It isn't like they have ejectors. All I can figure is the lips of the magazine are too wide and allowing the round to slip through prematurely or something.
I'm trying to figure out what would cause this issue. And for the life of me, I can't see how this isn't magazine related. But I'm not a gunsmith. It isn't like they have ejectors. All I can figure is the lips of the magazine are too wide and allowing the round to slip through prematurely or something.
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Lulz. "Opportunities to improve" = make it actually work. PEO Soldier and Sig must share the same marketing team.
The m17 and m18 passed the MRBS and MRBF tests with flying colors using the new ammo. But they flopped miserably with the legacy ball ammo.
They also failed with the new ball ammo XM1152 according to the article I read. Also, when did NATO go 115gr, or are we just abandoning 124 NATO because of this new whiz-ba..oh crap POS that Big Green HAD to have?
Thank you for the correction. That is correct.
Premature ejectulation? FWIW my two P320s have been flawless.
Remove all emotion, biases and preconceived notions from the equation, put the objective facts & comparisons down on paper and let intelligent people who have no dog in the fight make a selection and the Glock wins 10 out of 10 times. The Army screwed the pooch and hopefully not too many soldiers suffer the consequences before the situation gets un****ed.
Lol, I knew someone would go there.
Maybe the problem is specific to the ammo. Or it is the run of pistols the Army is using?
Actually, the company that delivers the bid 40% lower than the competition wins 10 out of 10 times.
I don't know how the Army does business but if it's anything like big business, low price rules the day. As long as it "meets the specs" and there's no previous issues with the vendor, they get the job...and as it sounds like with this issue, they know that usually, the plant that get saddled with the POS will figure out how to make it work. I've could bore you with so many such tales of woe.
