You think loss to theft is expensive? Wait to you see the bills for a wrongful shoot.
Even the bill for a "good shoot" will probably be $10k +
You think loss to theft is expensive? Wait to you see the bills for a wrongful shoot.
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I am more than a little troubled by what I perceive to be questions about "when do I get to shoot someone?"
That was kind of my point. The common person doesn't know the difference. What's interesting is that this exact example of "walk outside to someone stealing your car" was used in the class.Theft is not a forcible felony. If Mr. Relford's class includes followup questions, I recommend you contact him again and gain a better understanding of felony vs forcible felony.
My kinda woman!Trigger she is very pretty and can probably beat you senseless with that bang stick.
Such a complicated issue because "reasonable force" is subjective..
OR... given current events.. could one say that they were acting in defense of a third party by keeping the car from being used as a weapon ??
My comments weren't really related to shoplifting as I do not now, nor have I ever, clerked in a convenience store. I was just generally complaining that apparently I would have to just stand by and watch as someone cleans out my garage, waiting for police to arrive.
Ah-HAH! I did not know that.
Okay . . . so . . . same scenario. Once "you" climb into the car, does theft then become robbery?
Ah-HAH! I did not know that.
Okay . . . so . . . same scenario. Once "you" climb into the car, does theft then become robbery?
What if I catch someone breaking into my car, and I get physical with them, to stop them. But suddenly they start whooping my butt. Can I draw my gun then? Even though I was the one who started violence?
How is getting into your own (illegally occupied) car violent? This seems to be on the extreme end of the subject-matter of 'duty to retreat' laws like you find in leftist snowflake states.
Garage is attached. So if I come home and someone is taking stuff from my garage, I can draw my firearm and attempt to hold them until police arrive. No, I am not looking for an excuse to shoot someone, but neither do I have any interest in attempting to relive my wrestling glory from 40+ years ago.Why? Because a clerk in an incident you have on details about was arrested? You can confront thieves. If they threaten you, then the game changes. Pointing a gun at people for shoplifting who've, apparently, presented no threat =/= confronting someone in your garage, especially if it's an attached garage.
My understanding:
So, someone is committing a non-violent crime, and you yell "Hey! Stop!". If they run off, its is over. If they escalate and choose to attack you, you can defend yourself with deadly force, as they are now committing a forcible felony (assault).
I haven't been confident of our new prosecutor's logic or the the prior guy to a lesser extent...That can't be right. It's too logical and simple.
That can't be right. It's too logical and simple.
Below my deductibleI was just curious. Honestly, if I saw someone coming out of my house with my TV, that's ok. Just gives me an excuse to buy a new one....
....Turning a regular good guy into a criminal just seems like a dick move. ......