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Grease the slide?
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Learned a lot. Good thread! I use a dab of grease on slides, oil pretty much everywhere else. I wanna check out some of the brands of oil you guys use. My grease I use is random surplus grease in the tiny cylindrical plastic containers with yellow caps fwiw. I need to get better about lubing stuff. Very anal about cleaning, but lubing, especially ARs, isn't probably "proper". I lube stuff a lot (liberally) generally because I don't shoot stuff that often.
I go by the rule if its shiny oil it... but I know a few ar guys that run grease in there AR's too that run alot of rounds thru em.. With no problems I guess its up to you what you feel works. plus or minus here or there what works in certain spots.. It all comes from experience. cold weather, sand, moisture etc. experiment take advise and try it..
Syxxthkidd
Plinker
If any slide groove lube would be used, I would use a dry gaphite lube.
The following from Louder Than Words is very relevant to this discussion. Weapons lube is situationally dependent! I Normally run Light Tetra on rails and Light CLP (probably good for most of CONUS and never had any cold weather issues), though in dusty places LIGHTEST possible lube, CLP then wipe it all down till almost not there!
"The following narrative and photos are what got me moving in this direction with weapons finishes in the first place...a few years ago I was cleaning my weapons next to a teammate just after being extracted from a hot mission. We were picked up by UH-60's and CH-47's. We were blasted by moon dust as the helos pulled pitch to land on us.
My SIG P226 was dusty when we got back to base but still cycled ( I used the thinest amount of XF-7 that you could apply for lube). My buddy removed the magazine from his P228, and muscled the slide back to clear the chamber. He dropped the takedown lever and said, "Take a look at this!".
Here's what I saw,
There is no magazine in the weapon. The slide is being held back by "moon dust" friction.
My P226 looked like this when I field stripped it,
This is what his looked like when he got it apart,
Again, I barely applied XF-7 to the barrel, barrel hood, and a tiny bit on the rails. My buddy used a light coat of oil (as we usually used) inside his weapon. The difference is huge. My gun wasn't clean, but it worked. His did not. Sometimes when it comes to lube in combat environments, less is more. It depends on where you're fighting."
"The following narrative and photos are what got me moving in this direction with weapons finishes in the first place...a few years ago I was cleaning my weapons next to a teammate just after being extracted from a hot mission. We were picked up by UH-60's and CH-47's. We were blasted by moon dust as the helos pulled pitch to land on us.
My SIG P226 was dusty when we got back to base but still cycled ( I used the thinest amount of XF-7 that you could apply for lube). My buddy removed the magazine from his P228, and muscled the slide back to clear the chamber. He dropped the takedown lever and said, "Take a look at this!".
Here's what I saw,
There is no magazine in the weapon. The slide is being held back by "moon dust" friction.
My P226 looked like this when I field stripped it,
This is what his looked like when he got it apart,
Again, I barely applied XF-7 to the barrel, barrel hood, and a tiny bit on the rails. My buddy used a light coat of oil (as we usually used) inside his weapon. The difference is huge. My gun wasn't clean, but it worked. His did not. Sometimes when it comes to lube in combat environments, less is more. It depends on where you're fighting."
686 Shooter
Expert
I for one, use a thin layer of white grease on the the slide rails of my autos, not so much that it "globs" up, just enough to provide a little lube. My feelings are, that any wear points need lubricant and oil is not thick enough to stay put.
Sigasaurus
Sharpshooter
I use standard white lithium grease. I apply 2 small dots with a fine point paint brush and never have any issues with build up or failure with my glocks. I also have switched all of BCG in my AR's to nickel boron coated and I can't even compare in words. All I can say is 500rds on a range trip and cleaned with a rag almost zero residue and no carbon build up. You have to try it to understand the difference I feel it is cutting edge technology.
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NHT3
Grandmaster
I had the same experience with the Tetra, I could feel the difference even after I tried to wipe it all off.. IMHO if it's a carry gun it doesn't get cold so type of lube isn't a issue and the grease is less likely to run somewhere you don't want it. If I left it out in freezing weather I would use tetra lube oil.
I just started using Weapon Shield and so far I love it. Easy to apply and it doesn't seem to attract a lot of dirt and residue. The cool applicator is great to use and I'm sold on it. I use it everywhere I would normally lube, including the slide.
See this thread: https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...gear/168920-free_sample_of_weapon_shield.html It also has a link to the website.
The owner was giving away free samples in the applicator tube. Sent him an email and had it 2 days later. Getting ready to order some pretty soon.
See this thread: https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...gear/168920-free_sample_of_weapon_shield.html It also has a link to the website.
The owner was giving away free samples in the applicator tube. Sent him an email and had it 2 days later. Getting ready to order some pretty soon.
Don't think I've seen it in this thread, but "flork's lubrication recommendations" is a thread or a sticky over on sigforum. Good stuff. Flork is a member here, too.
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But I must say I have found that small amounts of grease are the only way to go for the slide rails if you're talking about a carry or home defense gun. I've not had it "gum up" the works when shooting even after weeks of carry, and I also believe you can feel the improvement from oil to tetra grease on my Walther PPS.
Not to mention that oil spreads out everywhere when it just sits there, let alone when carrying - and forget about after shooting a mag or two. I am in college now, so there are plenty of times where I don't need to put on my gun for a few days (dumb rules, but still rules). Every time I used gun oil it would be spread out everywhere on my gun and on the foam lining of my lock box, even after multiple wipe-downs over several days. I only follow Walther's lubrication recommendations and nothing more, so I shouldn't be over-oiling at all.
I'm personally more worried about oil in my primers than about grease "gumming up" the action in a SD situation. If you clean your gun once a week as you should, grease should never be a problem anyway.
I'm no ME, but isn't there a rule that you oil spinning parts and grease sliding parts?
But I must say I have found that small amounts of grease are the only way to go for the slide rails if you're talking about a carry or home defense gun. I've not had it "gum up" the works when shooting even after weeks of carry, and I also believe you can feel the improvement from oil to tetra grease on my Walther PPS.
Not to mention that oil spreads out everywhere when it just sits there, let alone when carrying - and forget about after shooting a mag or two. I am in college now, so there are plenty of times where I don't need to put on my gun for a few days (dumb rules, but still rules). Every time I used gun oil it would be spread out everywhere on my gun and on the foam lining of my lock box, even after multiple wipe-downs over several days. I only follow Walther's lubrication recommendations and nothing more, so I shouldn't be over-oiling at all.
I'm personally more worried about oil in my primers than about grease "gumming up" the action in a SD situation. If you clean your gun once a week as you should, grease should never be a problem anyway.
I'm no ME, but isn't there a rule that you oil spinning parts and grease sliding parts?
WhitleyStu
Keep'em Scary Sharp!!!
As a general rule, yes. Under extreme pressure and tight fit machine rails use a thin film of oil. Rails with less pressure and looser fit use grease. Very high RPM bearings use an air/oil mist or a very thick grease like Exxon Andok that will not spin out. Standard RPM bearings use oil or grease depensing on location.
