Gun discharged at IKEA

[Trigger Time]

It's sad to make jokes about this dangerous sloppy gun carrier being an INGOer.

It's sad because it's probably not a joke. Even trolls from the anti gun side join ingo to stir up poo.
Anyone can "join" INGO. Membership doesnt mean someone is part of the community.
I constantly see people who never contribute in posts or events or help members in need have hundreds of classifieds deals. Just one example.

It's sad that honest to God my first thought (after "is everyone safe?" "Teach your kids not to touch guns without supervision" and "what a dumbass") was, I wonder if hes an ingo member, I hope not

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

It's sad to make jokes about this dangerous sloppy gun carrier being an INGOer.

Yeah, because we are all soooo perfect and would never make that kind of mistake.

 

[HoughMade]

I hope it wasn't an INGOer, but...a joke is a joke, right?

Also, when I read the number of comments I do with statements like "...been doing it this way for 30 years and its never been a problem" or "I just can't get comfortable if I...", I'll just to have to keep on hoping, 'cause...

 

[Chr15topher]

This is why I don’t buy cheap holsters. I’m big on “the holster is just as important as the firearm” thing.

Just imagine the crap storm we’d be going through if this kid accidentally killed a sibling or a stranger. Thank God nobody was hurt.

 

[craigkim]

I want to know what make it was specifically. Not that it really matters, but just curious. I have a S&W 340 CT that I will sometimes pocket carry in a Safariland HOLSTER during the summer. It's pretty light, but I would notice it IMMEDIATELY, if it were no longer in my pocket. In addition, I doubt a child could get past the 12.5lb trigger pull. I cringe thinking this guy was pocket carrying a little Glock or similar.

 

[IndyTom]

Fake news...


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With it being that low, it appears to be specifically posted for the 5 year olds...

I guess it is a good thing it wasn't a mock bathroom or there would have been indecent exposure charges, too.

 

[Ark]

From INGO's own Guy Relford in the Fox 59 article (bold and large font cause I like it):

“Being a knucklehead is not a crime in Indiana, or in most places," Relford said.


Relford added that perhaps the closest charge the gun's owner could receive is criminal recklessness. But that charge states the person has to knowingly, intentionally, or recklessly commit an act. Relford says this case sounds much more like an inadvertent error than something intentional or reckless.


“That can translate into civil liability, but that alone doesn’t result in criminal culpability," Relford said.

It is Fishers, though. If people whine loudly enough, they may make up something to charge him with just for the sake of being seen punishing a bad gun owner.

 

[Mark in Indiana]

I can't add much to what's been said, but this is a classic lesson on why you never carry without a quality holster! These people give responsible gun owners anbad name.

 

[bwframe]

It's sad because it's probably not a joke. Even trolls from the anti gun side join ingo to stir up poo.
Anyone can "join" INGO. Membership doesnt mean someone is part of the community.
I constantly see people who never contribute in posts or events or help members in need have hundreds of classifieds deals. Just one example.


It's sad that honest to God my first thought (after "is everyone safe?" "Teach your kids not to touch guns without supervision" and "what a dumbass") was, I wonder if hes an ingo member, I hope not

Yeah, because we are all soooo perfect and would never make that kind of mistake.

I don't disagree with the arguments.

That said, I think the often used "what's the dumb ass' INGO user name?" is a negative slam on all INGOers. It gives the impression that we are ALL more apt to be one of those dumb asses than not.

.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

Folks who've taken my class have watched a video of a guy drop a gun down the leg of his overalls and not notice it. Definitely not a gun you could get in a pocket, either. The guy behind him in line notices it, though, and then shenanigans ensue.

Do we have to take your class to see this video?

 

[BehindBlueI's]

Do we have to take your class to see this video?

At very least, you'd have to see it in person. It's not online anywhere.

 

[Double T]

I think a little hazing is in order. Joking is approved from my POV.

 

[HoughMade]

Blackhawk SERPA would have prevented this.

 

[openwell]

blackhawk serpa holsters carry is secure ;however, they are much too open when the temps don't allow sweatshirts to cover.

desantis intruder is very secure IWB I use and much better for conceal.

there are many many good IWB holsters out there. too many to mention that are better than your pocket.

I do wonder why the guy did not FEEL that the gun had fallen out of his pocket? cause if I carry in my rear pocket I know when it's NOT there?

 

[Trigger Time]

I don't disagree with the arguments.

That said, I think the often used "what's the dumb ass' INGO user name?" is a negative slam on all INGOers. It gives the impression that we are ALL more apt to be one of those dumb asses than not.

.

I see what you are saying. I deffinately dont think ALL ingoers are dumb or stupid. Some of the smartest people I've ever met are on ingo. Some I havent met but hope to.
I'm certainly not one of the smartest but I dont think I'm the dumbest but maybe I'm too dumb to see it
Also some of the kindest and most caring people I've met and some of the best trained and safest are here to.
Ingo is an asset overall to the state, not a hindrance

 

[LP1]

And this is what the liberals are afraid of, idiots with guns.

And here's more raw meat.

 

[LP1]

Blackhawk SERPA would have prevented this.

But then Mr. Ikea would probably have a ND when holding the retention button down while pulling it out.

Serpa requires training and practice, both of which were probably in short supply with Mr. Ikea.

 

[HoughMade]

But then Mr. Ikea would probably have a ND when holding the retention button down while pulling it out.

Serpa requires training and practice, both of which were probably in short supply with Mr. Ikea.

 

[D K]

I just have to wonder of the age of the "child". The media is heavily emphasizing "child" in their reports, but was it a 17-year-old, or a 10-year old?

Not that it indemnifies the owner who parted with his piece, but I'd think if they knew it was a 10-year-old, they'd be sensationalizing that in the story, and since they're not, I'm guessing that the "child' was old enough to know better.

 

[Ggreen]

I just have to wonder of the age of the "child". The media is heavily emphasizing "child" in their reports, but was it a 17-year-old, or a 10-year old?

Not that it indemnifies the owner who parted with his piece, but I'd think if they knew it was a 10-year-old, they'd be sensationalizing that in the story, and since they're not, I'm guessing that the "child' was old enough to know better.

Old enough to know better? Please a trained FBI agent just shot a guy while trying to pick up his pistol after he dropped it, **** happens and when you're playing with firearms there is a steep learning curve. No reason to blame the kid who picked up the pistol at all, no matter the age. Even if it were an adult, there is a growing number of adults who go their entire lifetimes without touching a real firearm. Some people truly believe you have to cock a pistol before it shoots, I've met them.