HB1231 passes in house- (Centerfire rifles for deer hunting)

[Mgderf]

With 30-30, 308, 30-06, and 300 being allowed, it's not a hard stretch for them to allow in 7.62x54R, and .303 British... Would let some of us surplus guys in on it too. Of course then they'll end up with a huge list of allowed calibers... Might as well just set diameter and case length requirements like they've done already. If not you'll have the constant requests for evaluation of all the calibers in between what's already allowed in terms of size and power...

And 7.62X39, and 7.7X58 Jap...

 

[Lambo]

So as the new proposed law stands I will still need to trim my .35 Remington to be legal?

 

[7mmRM]

Not to be a smartass, but is your 35 Rem any of the following-

308 Win
243 Win
30/06 SPG
30/30 WCF
300 Win Mag

If not, yes a trim will be needed for legality. Silly I know.

 

[Expatriated]

Sure does.

So you can hunt with a Glock 23?

 

[bart1533]

So as the new proposed law stands I will still need to trim my .35 Remington to be legal?

Yep...

 

[gunselman]

So you can hunt with a Glock 23?

The way it is currently written yes. General assumption is that DNR will clarify all of these ambiguous statements when they publish the hunting guide.

I assume they ment 10mm auto but are bafoons and did not realize a 40 smith and wesson uses a 10mm bullet too!

 

[gunselman]

The bill was signed by the Speaker and the President Pro Tempore today (3.10.2016).

 

[kludge]

The way it is written currently doesn't specify 10mm auto, 40 Smith and Wesson or 10mm auto mag. Hopefully DNR will clarify this.

not that it would matter, a lot of10mm ammo is downloaded to 40s&w level anyway.

what I wonder is does the new language mean I can no longer use the previously legal rifles on public land?

 

[M4Madness]

not that it would matter, a lot of10mm ammo is downloaded to 40s&w level anyway.

what I wonder is does the new language mean I can no longer use the previously legal rifles on public land?

This bill in no way affects anything previously legal for deer.

 

[bstewrat3]

The only downside for me is the private land portion, because I pretty much stick to the state properties. Hopefully the State Park Reductions will allow the new HPR's since they are special hunts, but if not I am still well equipped with the 35 Remington Rimmed 1.8".

 

[bwframe]

The only downside for me is the private land portion, because I pretty much stick to the state properties. Hopefully the State Park Reductions will allow the new HPR's since they are special hunts, but if not I am still well equipped with the 35 Remington Rimmed 1.8".

Hopefully after a season or two of blood not running down the trails, we can get this worked in for us regular folk who don't have or won't pay for access to private hunting grounds.

 

[Hookeye]

Colorado equip regs
http://cpw.state.co.us/Documents/RulesRegs/Brochure/BigGame/biggame.pdf
page 16




Cheap tags, no preference points needed, can use scopes, pellets and sabots..........Indiana is so backwards.

 

[Hookeye]

not that it would matter, a lot of10mm ammo is downloaded to 40s&w level anyway.

what I wonder is does the new language mean I can no longer use the previously legal rifles on public land?

Really?

The HP proposal is an addition, not a substitute.
Geeesh, how hard is this stuff people?

Bordering on ridiculous.

 

[Hookeye]

Hmmmm, a special hunt on state ground................is not "private land".
Maybe some special allowance due to the hunt being regulated.............but my guess is that aint gonna happen.
Even if the state eventually goes full HP rifle, special hunts might have such gear excluded.

 

[mistersmith]

The Bill has a lot of craziness in it, but I am still happy it passed. Maybe someday we all can use rifles to harvest some deer. Good day for hunters.

 

[gunselman]

Colorado equip regs
http://cpw.state.co.us/Documents/RulesRegs/Brochure/BigGame/biggame.pdf
page 16

Cheap tags, no preference points needed, can use scopes, pellets and sabots..........Indiana is so backwards.

For me its nearly impossible to compare a state like Colorado with 43.3% public land to Indiana with 4.5%. Indiana is 43rd when it comes to public land.

Regulatoins that work for states like that can't simply be cut and pasted into our drastically different environment.

 

[Expatriated]

I'm not sure Colorado's cheap either. My brother lives there and he always asks me to come hunting with him. Every time I start adding up the costs, I'm quickly overwhelmed. And forget a Colorado outfitter. I could just about go hunt African plains game for the same price.

However, their firearms regulation for guns is pretty simple. Indiana could do worse than adopt that word for word.

 

[Hookeye]

I'm not sure Colorado's cheap either. My brother lives there and he always asks me to come hunting with him. Every time I start adding up the costs, I'm quickly overwhelmed. And forget a Colorado outfitter. I could just about go hunt African plains game for the same price.

However, their firearms regulation for guns is pretty simple. Indiana could do worse than adopt that word for word.

Colorado is only cheap to hunt if you're a resident.
But then they pay extra for living in such.

My sis had a nice muley in her yard every winter.......at least 30".
Hell the smaller 4x4 was shootable AFAIC. Problem was..........not public land where they were.
But with BIL's connections I'm sure the trespass fee would only be half heart attack worthy.

My prev post was flavored with sarcasm............amazing how hard that is for folks to pick up.

 

[Hookeye]

With 30-30, 308, 30-06, and 300 being allowed, it's not a hard stretch for them to allow in 7.62x54R, and .303 British... Would let some of us surplus guys in on it too. Of course then they'll end up with a huge list of allowed calibers... Might as well just set diameter and case length requirements like they've done already. If not you'll have the constant requests for evaluation of all the calibers in between what's already allowed in terms of size and power...

By not allowing that stuff they might have figured it to reduce the chance of Bubba running FMJ.
I expect the regs to open up after the trial period, or sooner.

 

[bstewrat3]

Hmmmm, a special hunt on state ground................is not "private land".
Maybe some special allowance due to the hunt being regulated.............but my guess is that aint gonna happen.
Even if the state eventually goes full HP rifle, special hunts might have such gear excluded.

The goal of the reduction hunts is reduction so I wouldn't be surprised if they made an exception. It really doesn't matter, because they aren't going to be any more dead than the 35 Remington already makes them. I don't need to use the beanfield rifle here anyway.