I don't understand mag dumps

[Bassat]

I spent a few years teaching the M2 .50 Caliber MG in a tank battalion. Keeping in mind that the M2 does not use magazines, at the end of every training session, we did 'belt' dumps. Ammunition issued is based on the number of expected trainees. Ammunition consumed is based on number of trainees who showed up, the weather, range conditions, and so for forth. Quantity of ammunition issued at the NEXT training session was: Ammo drawn MINUS Ammo turned in. While I was teaching, we NEVER turned in .50 cal ammo. Sometimes my last range day consisted of a lot privates having a lot of fun with a lot of "excess" ammo. On heavy days, we also earned a lot of new M2 barrels. "Once they're red, they're dead." Saved a lot of cleaning time. We did our part to help Uncle Ronnie win WWIII.

 

[GasTube138]

If I'm adjusting gas, one final test is a mag dump. It's not for accuracy but reliability. If I get no jams or issues and my gas is still controllable I'm happy. I've had rifles where they were fine every couple seconds, one shot at a time. But when I started rapid, FTE, FTF etc. So I'll adjust the gas to as light but reliable as I can get it, but I need to test it with a mag dump to make sure it'll keep firing. It's a reliability test for me.


Other than that, I mean they can be fun, but are for sure a luxury/waste. There's no real reason I can think of practically other than suppressive fire type stuff.

 

[jsharmon7]

This thread reminded me of a great idea I had: INGO Thunderdome. It’s a shoot house with Simunitions. Loser gets a 30 day ban from INGO.

 

[cedartop]

This thread reminded me of a great idea I had: INGO Thunderdome. It’s a shoot house with Simunitions. Loser gets a 30 day ban from INGO.

I'm game. It has been a while since my last FOF and a 30 day ban would probably do me good.

 

[bwframe]

Gotta love FOF.

If you are gonna score it though, might have to come up some unique rules? Otherwise, you could game the crap out of it?

 

[jsharmon7]

Gotta love FOF.

If you are gonna score it though, might have to come up some unique rules? Otherwise, you could game the crap out of it?

I’m just an idea guy. I need someone else to work out the details.

 

[Gabriel]

 

[indyblue]

its very very very expensive

FTFY

 

[sheepdog697]

Fun factor for most part.

 

[GunsCarsPlanes]

sloughfoot - nice plane, what is that a Cherokee?​

 

[sloughfoot]

sloughfoot - nice plane, what is that a Cherokee?​

Yes it is

 

[Combat Engineer]

Everytime a Louisville Metro Officer or Officers get involved in a shooting they mag dump like crazy.A lot of self defense (pro's) advocate it as well.Three per man... Mozambique drill.

 

[BE Mike]

Couldn’t say, never played one. But do remember the class though. And the other stupid one on how to protect yourself from an atomic bomb with a shelter half.

In a former life I was directly involved with troop training of regular Army soldiers. I never taught or heard of being taught either of your claims. It sounds like someone was reaching way beyond any official training manual.

 

[Creedmoor]

This thread reminded me of a great idea I had: INGO Thunderdome. It’s a shoot house with Simunitions. Loser gets a 30 day ban from INGO.

Do you want to play?

Can Simunitions be bought in 10mm?

 

[jsharmon7]

Do you want to play?

Can Simunitions be bought in 10mm?

I only get to play with sim rounds once a year or so. If you have access, let’s do it!

 

[Creedmoor]

I only get to play with sim rounds once a year or so. If you have access, let’s do it!

I've never shot them, my sons train with them all the time.
I laughed to myself that, a 10mm MP5 with sims, would really ****ing hurt.

 

[jsharmon7]

I've never shot them, my sons train with them all the time.
I laughed to myself that, a 10mm MP5 with sims, would really ****ing hurt.

I wonder if they make a 12ga version?

 

[Mij]

In a former life I was directly involved with troop training of regular Army soldiers. I never taught or heard of being taught either of your claims. It sounds like someone was reaching way beyond any official training manual.

Possibly, but in my BCT, Ft. Knox, 69. We were taught “ you see a bright light to your immediate front, take appropriate action”. At that time you removed your shelter half, crouched down and covered yourself while stepping on the bottom edges, then you sprinkled a yellowed powder substance around the interior edge. The fact that you could or could not save yourself if you were in that situation was lost on most kids at that time. But it is what I experienced.

 

[Mij]

In a former life I was directly involved with troop training of regular Army soldiers. I never taught or heard of being taught either of your claims. It sounds like someone was reaching way beyond any official training manual.

OK, in the other class. We were taught that if you hold your thumb up at arm’s length if your thumb covers or doesn’t cover a long forgotten % of a jet plane you could supposedly shoot it down with an M-16. Now even though we were kids, we knew this was BS. But it was basic training and none of us wanted to be on the bad side of a DI.

So there you go.

 

[BE Mike]

What a waste of training time. Even if they had validity, we had air superiority in RVN and nobody was thinking of using nukes, even tactical ones like the Davey Crockett. I completed basic training at Ft. Knox in 1966 and also completed Advanced Infantry training at Ft. Ord. I completed Infantry OCS at Ft. Benning. I trained recruits at Ft. Campbell in 1967. I have a childhood friend who was a non-com and trained basic trainees at Ft. Knox during the time that you were there. I should see him during the Christmas holidays. If I remember, I'll ask him about the syllabuses.